Post by: Manedwolf on September 14, 2007, 05:36:17 AM
The silence from her on it has been deafening, in fact.
What I wonder is, since the dems are so scared of MoveOn, (if they speak against it, they get slammed by it), is it in fact possible that their little nasty ad could derail her campaign?
She's stuck. She can't speak against them or they'll destroy her among leftists. She can't not speak against them or it looks like she supports what they said, which was despicable.
I love it.
Hoist by their own petard...
Post by: StopTheGrays on September 14, 2007, 05:55:49 AM
The NY Post did find out that MoveOn got a fantastic deal on the price of the ad. Normally a full page ad is in the $180,000 range, MoveOn only had to pay around $65,000. Again this story will also go unnoticed by the rest of the MM and by Monday just be old news and not worth noting anymore.
Post by: El Tejon on September 14, 2007, 06:11:52 AM
Post by: StopTheGrays on September 14, 2007, 06:18:31 AM
Where's the ad???
http://cdn.moveon.org/pac/content/pac/pdfs/PetraeusNYTad.pdf
Post by: El Tejon on September 14, 2007, 06:41:26 AM
Wow, that's putting it all out there. Fairly bold for American politics.
Post by: trapperready on September 14, 2007, 07:29:03 AM
Post by: Mannlicher on September 14, 2007, 12:13:40 PM
Just as the FemiNazis protected Bill Clinton, despite his life long abuse of women, Hillary's supporters, who are dedicated to destroying America, will forgive any and everything in their zeal to put her in the White House.
Post by: Standing Wolf on September 14, 2007, 05:32:43 PM
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Just as the FemiNazis protected Bill Clinton, despite his life long abuse of women, Hillary's supporters, who are dedicated to destroying America, will forgive any and everything in their zeal to put her in the White House.
Aristocrats can do no wrong.
Post by: longeyes on September 14, 2007, 08:43:54 PM
Post by: Paddy on September 15, 2007, 11:09:01 AM
Post by: gunsmith on September 15, 2007, 12:52:23 PM
I'm hoping her screeching side will reveal itself during the debates against Fred or Duncan.
Post by: Manedwolf on September 15, 2007, 02:16:54 PM
I'm hoping her screeching side will reveal itself during the debates against Fred or Duncan.
Post by: Paddy on September 15, 2007, 02:34:42 PM
Post by: The Rabbi on September 16, 2007, 11:29:29 AM
Post by: Paddy on September 16, 2007, 12:02:48 PM
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Unless we work hard to elect Republicans to the house and senate we will be in for it.
No more Republicans for me, thanks all the same.
Post by: Manedwolf on September 16, 2007, 01:51:10 PM
I strongly think Hillary will end up being president. She has her ducks in a row. The Republicans are clueless. Unless we work hard to elect Republicans to the house and senate we will be in for it.
While I hope that doesn't happen, I do believe that it would not hurt to be "salting away" hicap mags and stripped recievers now...
Post by: Stand_watie on September 16, 2007, 04:28:10 PM
I strongly think Hillary will end up being president. She has her ducks in a row. The Republicans are clueless. Unless we work hard to elect Republicans to the house and senate we will be in for it.
Not all bad, though it seems that way.. Hillary winning will have the general tendency towards putting Republicans back in congress, which is better for us domestically, At the same time, regarding foreign affairs, I don't particularly think she's really as dovish as Bill, and despite politics, considering we've had both thumbs jambed all the way to the second knuckle into our eye-sockets, intelligence-wise, since circa Jimmy Carter, her menopausal, hysterical flailing about regarding big stick foreign policy. Won't make that much difference. Hey Iran, North Korea, Syria, Pakistan, the Netherlands, won't it all make about the same difference who we actually bomb next? The hardcore islamofacist dictators don't care about the death of millions under their thumb...but they do care about the .30 caliber slug that is likely to end their existence if a large enough number of people under their thumb are unhappy... The moderate islamists do care, and the philo-islamophites (I learned that word from you BTW) just want to keep the fallout out of their neck of the woods.
Post by: Manedwolf on September 16, 2007, 05:03:21 PM
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The hardcore islamofacist dictators don't care about the death of millions under their thumb...but they do care about the .30 caliber slug that is likely to end their existence if a large enough number of people under their thumb are unhappy...
And Hillary would do her ice-queen Machiavellian best to ensure that we're all unarmed and cannot take such actions. They'll be armed, of course.
Post by: wmenorr67 on September 16, 2007, 06:47:23 PM
The Republicans best bet would be to have Fred Thompson as the nominee.
Love to see him in debates against any Democrat.
Post by: Paddy on September 16, 2007, 08:16:03 PM
Hillary may get the nomination but I don't think she can win the general election.
The Republicans best bet would be to have Fred Thompson as the nominee.
Love to see him in debates against any Democrat.
The Republicans best bet would be to have Fred Thompson as the nominee.
Love to see him in debates against any Democrat.
The tough part for her will be to get the nomination. She'd eat Fred's lunch. She's younger, smarter and wants the Presidency more. She would make Fred look old, tired and slow.
Post by: Monkeyleg on September 16, 2007, 09:22:54 PM
Fred Thompson is making some serious gaffes on his new campaign trail. He'd better learn to get his issues in order, and be able to articlulate them with the same demeanor and "aw-shucks" style that he's been using so far.
If he keeps stepping in it, he's going to be toast.
Hillary? I firmly believe that she'll be the nominee. After all, the Clinton machine didn't spend the last seven years making sure that Al Gore and John Kerry didn't win (when, in fact, I think either of them could have easily won). The Clinton machine has been working on 2008 since 2000. Hillary will be the nominee.
The Republicans are going to lose next year, and lose big, unless they start talking like Republicans.
As for Thompson, again, he has to get some people around him who are very good at distilling statements about general principles into effective thirty-second sound bites.
Post by: wmenorr67 on September 16, 2007, 11:41:28 PM
The fact that she is younger will cost her up against Fred. He is quickly closing the gap in the Republican polls since the offical announcement.
And in my opinion it will be his down home "aw-shucks" demeanor that will win over the southern states and he will have a VP that the "Yankees" will like.
Post by: atomd on September 17, 2007, 08:54:36 AM
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Aristocrats can do no wrong.
I heard a joke about some aristocrats recently.