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Re: Hillary lost!
« Reply #50 on: January 04, 2008, 11:23:53 AM »
Geez, anyone remember the "Comeback Kid"?

She throws a gutter ball in Iowa and then claims to be the "Comeback Kid II" in New Hampshire.  The Clintons, like terrorists, always repeat successful plays.

Socialism doesn't play too well in the Live Free or Die state, here. Except among the Massholes that are invading the lower portion as a bedroom community. They vote the same way that ruined the state they fled from. Tongue

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Re: Hillary lost!
« Reply #51 on: January 04, 2008, 11:54:12 AM »
It is a big hit on Hillary, no matter how you cut it. Half of her strategy was to present herself as "the Inevitable". Not so inevitable now...

With Biden and Dodd out of the race, the Dem average has moved further left. That is a good thing for conservatives - it will be easier to convince people to go vote against whichever commie the Dems nominate.

While there will be no principal difference in terms of ideological underpinnings in a Dem administration, the details and conduct will be very different. Hillary is iron statism, while Edwards and Obama will come up will all sorts of silly ideas, call them "change", and get promptly gridlocked by a Rep congress.

On the Repub side, there is a significant weakness in that there is no unifying leader. They are all flawed in different ways, so no matter who wins the nomination, he will not be supported strongly for who he is. Running a campaign based on "I am not Hillary" will be an uphill battle with the critical independent vote. Romney may have been a winning figure but the Mormon stuff is killing him within important voter circles, as Iowa demonstrated.

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« Reply #52 on: January 04, 2008, 11:58:52 AM »
Translation: They all suck, but vote Republican anyway, because it's the 'right thing to do', like eating your oatmeal.  rolleyes

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Re: Hillary lost!
« Reply #53 on: January 04, 2008, 12:00:57 PM »
Riley, at your age you should know that oatmeal and voting Repub are good for you.  grin

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Re: Hillary lost!
« Reply #54 on: January 04, 2008, 12:07:39 PM »
There's a gun show next weekend in Manchester. I wish it was this weekend instead, since people tend to spill out of the downtown hotel it's at with their new purchases and go right into local restaurants and a landmark diner. It'd terrify Obama in particular, and probably Hillary as well. Even if they weren't inspecting new guns in cases on the table, ALL the local restaurants would be filled with the gun show crowd for lunch.

It'd be even more amusing if they had an event in the Radisson where it's at, and the dems had to react to happy, ordinary-looking people and families going past with newly purchased EBRs and luggage carts of ammo boxes.

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« Reply #55 on: January 04, 2008, 12:13:32 PM »
Well what the hell are we supposed to do?  Neither party is producing anyone even close to Presidential material, government is outta control and getting bigger, oil prices are outta sight and getting higher, the dollar is circling the drain, the national debt goes as far as the eye can see and beyond, liberties are being lost right and left, the country is being invaded by millions of illegals, et yada on and on.........

.......and we're just supposed to sit still a take whatever the two parties serve up?  Who the hell runs this country anyway?  Us, or the political parties and their apparatchiks?

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Re: Hillary lost!
« Reply #56 on: January 04, 2008, 02:45:53 PM »
how does anyone see edwards as pro middle class? like the "king " in king rat was pro rat

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Re: Hillary lost!
« Reply #57 on: January 04, 2008, 02:52:29 PM »
how does anyone see edwards as pro middle class? 


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Re: Hillary lost!
« Reply #58 on: January 04, 2008, 02:57:15 PM »
The more time Obama gets in front of a camera, the more votes he gets.

The more time Hillary gets in front of a camera, the more she loses.
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Re: Hillary lost!
« Reply #59 on: January 04, 2008, 03:12:57 PM »
shooter, I think it has more to do with the microphone.  When she's trying to make her point, she often GETS LOUDER AND LOUDER TOWARD THE END OF THE SENTENCE!!  Tis pitiful.


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« Reply #60 on: January 04, 2008, 03:31:22 PM »
fistful,

It is-she must feel like a flunkie compared to slick willie.

I love that "kentucky fried Hillary" video series
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« Reply #61 on: January 04, 2008, 03:38:41 PM »
how does anyone see edwards as pro middle class? like the "king " in king rat was pro rat

Uh, he was born into poverty, put himself through college and law school, then represented MIDDLE CLASS WORKING AMERICANS in successful lawsuits against abusive and negligent corporations. 

That makes him PRO middle class.

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Re: Hillary lost!
« Reply #62 on: January 04, 2008, 03:43:06 PM »
Riley, how could he do those things?  Doesn't he know there are Two Americas?  You can't cross over from one to the other.  Duh. 
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« Reply #63 on: January 04, 2008, 03:51:36 PM »
He was able to do those things as a result of the Bush tax cuts.  And the War on Terror which kept him safe from harm while he went to skool. And No Child Left a Dime- errr, I mean No Child Left Behind.  And things such as that.

Mission Accomplished. Stay the course. and stuff.

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« Reply #64 on: January 04, 2008, 04:14:08 PM »
Er, the point of the Two Americas rhetoric is the disappearance of the middle-class, fistful.
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Re: Hillary lost!
« Reply #65 on: January 04, 2008, 05:16:29 PM »
wooderson, I really cannot believe that you think I care.   laugh 


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Re: Hillary lost!
« Reply #66 on: January 04, 2008, 05:48:43 PM »
I know anything can happen,
I know there are worse democrats than Hillary,
I know it's early in the race,  but it still tickles me that she lost.

Call me petty, vindictive, etcetera,  I can handle it. 

It's refreshing to see the arrogant stumble,  as it renews faith in man.
It's pure joy to see the arrogant fall.

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Re: Hillary lost!
« Reply #67 on: January 04, 2008, 06:25:41 PM »
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I still do not know what the appeal of Obama is.  I could understand why someone would want Hillary (return to the good ole days, seems more responsible than Edwards), or Edwards (evil corporations) but Obama?  He doesnt represent anything.

Few years ago the most popular show on TV was a show about.......nothing (Seinfeld).

Hence the appeal of Obama.  He speaks in platitudes (Change, Make things better, Get us back on the right course).  All fluff, no substance.

Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.


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Re: Hillary lost!
« Reply #68 on: January 04, 2008, 06:43:12 PM »
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Uh, he was born into poverty, put himself through college and law school, then represented MIDDLE CLASS WORKING AMERICANS in successful lawsuits against abusive and negligent corporations.
 

Ummmm, no.   He actually he made his money suing OB-Gyn doctors by "linking" cerbal palsy with OB-Gyns not performing "timely" C-sections. 

Unfortunately the science doesn't hold up under scrunity, and now there are 4 times as many C-sections performed as before, but the rate of cerebal palsy hasn't changed.  As The New York Times reported: "Studies indicate that in most cases, the disorder is caused by fetal brain injury long before labor begins." All those Caesareans have, however, increased the mother's risk of death, hemorrhage, infection, pulmonary embolism and Mendelson's syndrome.  Then there's the problem of the number of OB-Gyn's who left practice because of the skyrocketing malpractice premiums.

Oh, and to show that Edwards is for the "little guy (and gal)":  When North Carolina wanted to setup a fund to help infants/kids with cerebal palsy, Edwards was one of the leading opponents.  Why, you ask ?? Because then his source of income would have dried up.  See cases in which the baby dies during birth only averages about a half a million dollars, meanwhile Edwards could tug on the heartstrings of juries by parading the disabled in front of them to get his 1/3 cut of multi-million dollar settlements/awards.

Mrs Scout is a NICU nurse.  The mention of John Edwards gets her pretty fired up.
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« Reply #69 on: January 04, 2008, 06:49:03 PM »
how does anyone see edwards as pro middle class? like the "king " in king rat was pro rat

Uh, he was born into poverty, put himself through college and law school, then represented MIDDLE CLASS WORKING AMERICANS in successful lawsuits against abusive and negligent corporations. 

That makes him PRO middle class.
we talking about the edwards that tanked with kerry?i thinks hes a poster child for ambulance chaser. and that his primary motive is representing and advancing john edwards. if the democratic party had been smarter last time and chosen lieberman honest john kerry mighta won

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Re: Hillary lost!
« Reply #70 on: January 04, 2008, 06:52:29 PM »
I can't believe so many of you still buy into the hysterical Clinton phobia force fed to you every day.  Do yourselves a favor and shut off Limbaugh/Hannity/Fox/Newsmax, etc.  Instead do some independent and open minded research.  Maybe you'll discover there's other, very real, evil afoot.
RileyMc:

I learned to loathe the Clintons WAY back, when he was Governor of Arkansas and I was in junior high school, due yet another transfer my father got from his employer.

Damn near all the dirt that later came out on the Clintons was common knowledge in Little Rock...so common even a FNG in JHS knew the dirt. 
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« Reply #71 on: January 04, 2008, 07:03:11 PM »
scout:
90,000+ people per year are killed by medical malpractice.  It's time the medical community is held responsible for their negligence.

jfruser:
Yeah, so let's keep beating on the Clintons while the Republicans sell us down the river.  Smart.  rolleyes

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« Reply #72 on: January 04, 2008, 07:05:49 PM »
scout:

{{shrug}}  90,000+ people per year are killed by medical malpractice.  It's time the medical community is held responsible for their negligence.

when in fact its malpractice yes. but when its about ambulance chasing with the insurance company anti chasers opting to settle outa expediency its all the rest of us that pay.

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« Reply #73 on: January 04, 2008, 07:08:05 PM »
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when in fact its malpractice yes. but when its about ambulance chasing with the insurance company anti chasers opting to settle outa expediency its all the rest of us that pay.

Uh, YOU don't pay unless YOUR'E at fault.  As far as 'ambulance chasing', he apparently convinced more than one jury of the facts.  The juries found in his favor, so take it up with them.

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« Reply #74 on: January 04, 2008, 07:20:15 PM »
sorry riley in my world the insurance companies pass it on  and guess who is at the bottom of the food chain
and when the insurance companies settle no jury decides
  this the boy you're shilling for?
"In his time in the Senate, Edwards co-sponsored 203 bills.[15] Among them was Lieberman's 2002 Iraq War Resolution (S.J.Res.46) which he co-sponsored along with 15 other senators, but which did not go to a vote;[16] he voted for replacement resolution (H.J Res. 114) in the full Senate to authorize the use of military force against Iraq, which passed by a vote of 77 to 23,[17] saying on October 10, 2002 that "Almost no one disagrees with these basic facts: that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a menace; that he has weapons of mass destruction and that he is doing everything in his power to get nuclear weapons; that he has supported terrorists; that he is a grave threat to the region, to vital allies like Israel, and to the United States; and that he is thwarting the will of the international community and undermining the United Nations' credibility."[18] He defended his vote on an October 10, 2004 appearance on Meet the Press, saying "I would have voted for the resolution knowing what I know today, because it was the right thing to do to give the president the authority to confront Saddam Hussein...I think Saddam Hussein was a very serious threat. I stand by that, and that's why [John Kerry and I] stand behind our vote on the resolution".[19] However, he subsequently changed his mind about the war and apologized for that military authorization vote. Edwards also voted in favor of the Patriot Act.

for the war? for the patriot act?
your pretty fexible