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Pending lawsuit regarding THR (Updated November 1, 2009)
« on: September 24, 2008, 12:05:03 PM »

<div class="quoteheader">Quote from: Oleg Volk</div><div class="quote">In December 2002, I founded The High Road forum dedicated to the advancement of responsible gun ownership. Recently, it was discovered that in 2006, the volunteer forum systems administrator, Derek Zeanah of Statesboro, Georgia, changed domain registration to himself. After he was confronted, Derek locked out all other staff from accessing the Web server administration and would not share even backup copies of its content. After failed attempts to peacefully resolve the dispute, it has become necessary for me to initiate a lawsuit against Derek Zeanah for the return of thehighroad.org domain name and the forum database.

I am seeking and would greatly appreciate donations to help with the cost of litigation. You can use Paypal (olegvolk@gmail.com) or send a check to:
Oleg Volk 3112 Chambley Ct Hermitage, TN 37076

All donations shall be returned if the lawsuit is ultimately avoided. You can also aid me by re-posting this appeal on your blog, forum or web site. My legal position is already endorsed by almost all of The High Road staff as well as Rich Lucibella, the founder of The Firing Line forum.
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<a href="http://olegvolk.livejournal.com/474369.html" target="_blank">http://olegvolk.livejournal.com/474369.html[/url]
« Last Edit: November 01, 2009, 08:13:31 AM by Oleg Volk »
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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2008, 12:07:15 PM »

oh *expletive deleted*it....

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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2008, 12:14:15 PM »

Not good.  Isn't Derek the sys admin here as well?
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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2008, 12:15:24 PM »

Not good.  Isn't Derek the sys admin here as well?

yep

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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2008, 12:15:35 PM »

*expletive deleted*it twice.

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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2008, 12:21:19 PM »

Man, for me this is like "deja vu all over again." Almost the same thing happened to a Jeep forum I was a member of several years ago. In our case, though, the guy who had signed out the domain name just ... disappeared. Stopped paying the bill for the server, didn't renew the domain when it came up, and neither the ISP nor the domain registration people would deal with anyone sle or give us access to keep the site up because the dirtbag was legally the "owner" of the site.

Tough times here in Hawkmoonville, but I dug up some pennies for the Jeep site and I'll dig up some more for Oleg ...

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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2008, 12:22:14 PM »

Oleg's name is still on APS, but Derek hosts the site and DB.  If things fall apart I would guess both would be down for a while.

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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2008, 12:28:19 PM »

OK, folks, no sense speculating on how this might affect APS.

As far as I know, none of the staff here has been contacted regarding this matter.

I'm going to close this for now, but will post updates as necessary.
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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2008, 02:03:50 PM »

It shouldn't affect APS. This forum has far fewer members and hasn't been of much interest to Derek so far. And I control the domain name. I will move it to another server once he releases the database.

Details of THR shutdown and related perfidy: http://olegvolk.livejournal.com/474369.html

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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2008, 03:09:44 PM »

Wait, do you mean to say that Derek bounced/booted/banned the staff at THR who did not support him?

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...hasn't been of much interest to Derek so far

So far being the operative phrase.  Otherwise sane, rational people have been known to come unglued when their perceived power and authority is challenged.

Keep up updated Oleg.  Now, where did I put that checkbook.....
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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2008, 03:12:16 PM »

looks like he took THR down. . .

This makes me glad I didn't send Derek money when he was asking for donations last year (felt kinda guilty at the time).

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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2008, 03:15:23 PM »

I've been an administrator at THR since its inception.

When news of this went public, I addressed a few questions about it in the General Discussion Forum. John Shirley didn't like that, so he moved the thread to a hidden part of the forum. Either Shirley or Zeanah also removed my administrator access. Guess he didn't like me playing the role of Nathan to his David.

There is no reason for the forums to be shut down except to keep the word from spreading. I expect that this post, my membership here and probably this entire thread will also disappear soon as Zeanah tries to hide his tracks.

Support Oleg: http://olegvolk.livejournal.com/474369.html

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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2008, 03:26:03 PM »

Wait, Derek doesn't control APS, too, does he?
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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2008, 03:27:14 PM »

Wait, Derek doesn't control APS, too, does he?
I believe he does.

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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2008, 03:29:21 PM »

Oh yeah, everyone's streaming in from THR.
Deer Hunter's here, too.
I would say some things about Derek before the lights go out...
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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2008, 03:29:46 PM »

Derek controls the server on which APS resides. Tyme and I are locked out of it, so I can't move APS content. If he shuts it down, I have another server on which we can start fresh and with better software.

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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2008, 03:33:25 PM »

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Derek controls the server on which APS resides. Tyme and I are locked out of it, so I can't move APS content. If he shuts it down, I have another server on which we can start fresh and with better software.
With the same address?

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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2008, 03:33:53 PM »

based on this thread and one on ar15.com it sounds like at least a few staffers are with derek, which ones are those?

good luck oleg

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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2008, 03:36:31 PM »

Never mind.  I'm dumb.

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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2008, 03:38:17 PM »

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it sounds like at least a few staffers are with derek, which ones are those?

John Shirley is the only one who sided with Derek. He claims that I  can't be trusted with the welfare of The High Road.

A couple are waiting on the side-lines. The rest (20+) are with me.

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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2008, 03:39:33 PM »

Derek controls the server on which APS resides. Tyme and I are locked out of it, so I can't move APS content. If he shuts it down, I have another server on which we can start fresh and with better software.

Hope it behaves like Simple Machines, not Vbulletin.

Good luck. And if it's elsewhere, I'd hope to see everyone there.

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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2008, 03:45:30 PM »

Hopefully I will be able to get a check out tommorow. 

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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2008, 03:46:24 PM »

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it sounds like at least a few staffers are with derek, which ones are those?

John Shirley is the only one who sided with Derek. He tried to prove that I am mentally unbalanced and can't be trusted with the welfare of The High Road.

A couple are waiting on the side-lines. The rest (20+) are with me.

Hokay, now.

Well, since it was your creation, it really is yours to deep-six if you are of a mind to.

I did a google on Derek and his various weblogs, sites, etc.  Not much activity since 2007.  I'm thinking this is something that has been brewing in his mind for some time and is a symptom of something gone badly out od whack with him.

Good luck on your efforts, OV.

Also, his idea is really messed up.  How many folks are going to advertise on a site with a lawsuit in the mix?  I can guarantee the advertiser will get the skinny.
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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2008, 03:51:06 PM »

I'll send some money when I get home from work today.

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Re: Pending lawsuit regarding THR - message reposted via Oleg's blog.
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2008, 03:55:41 PM »

Well isn't this something.

I can't believe people would actually side with this Derek guy.  Oleg, you've got my support.  I may scrape up some money this week for the cause.
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