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« on: October 11, 2005, 01:50:49 PM »
So APS, which rap artists do you like to listen to? I have quite a few favorites out there right now and I wanted to see if there were any rap fans in the house.

If you not a rap fan, please don't even bother to post.

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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2005, 02:43:36 PM »
I remember a girl at Bloomingdale's in the 1970s.  I never could figure out how she made the creases on the gifts so smooth and even.  She was truly my favorite "wrap artist."
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2005, 03:38:28 PM »
I remember that when somebody was arrested and released due to lack of evidence or the like, he busted a rap, or walked on a bum rap.  

I think that's what the originator of the thread is asking.  Cheesy








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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2005, 03:42:35 PM »
Got to say, listening to Slick Rick on the radio whilst driving around San Andreas in a blur - great fun occasionally.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2005, 04:23:51 PM »
The "c" in rap is silent.

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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2005, 04:25:27 PM »
Does Matisyahu count?
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2005, 04:43:27 PM »
"rap artist"

You owe me a new keyboard, Daniel.

I never knew you had such a sense of humor.  Very nice.

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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2005, 04:55:45 PM »
I love how the people I've questioned on their vitriolic dislike of rap have usually admitted to only hearing the mainstream stuff.

And besides, Shakespeare was the original rapper. He, or his characters at least, talked about just as much bawdy stuff as a "*let's not go there* this *let's not go there* that *let's not go there* what?" rap artist today.

Gorillaz? Massive Attack? Atmosphere? Hell, even Tupac once in a while. All music has it's time and it's place.
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2005, 04:57:41 PM »
"Shakespeare was the original rapper."

This thread is bringing all the comedians out of the closet.

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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2005, 05:02:58 PM »
Thanks Winston for actually contributing. Most people that criticize it haven't really listened to it. Maybe I should have started a Glock vs. 1911 thread so I could actually get intelligent responses.

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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2005, 05:03:02 PM »
Mater-dei: Yeah...I guess setting words to a rhythm for poetic effect means something else when african americans are doing it.
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2005, 05:04:48 PM »
I also find it ironic that critics think that all rap has the stereotype that it is G-ed up nigga this nigga that...and that gunowners are country white people. Thanks for letting me laugh at two stereotypes in the same thread.

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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2005, 05:12:27 PM »
Here is a good example of those dumbass rap lyrics:


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We May Look Different
But We See The Same Sky
We may see different
But we cry the same cry

To wake up daily,
And sleep better nights,
Thats what we all wish for to seek a better life, right?
It's unfortunate, when tragedys strike,
But the truth is reality bites,
June 4th 89, a day residents fear
Now known as The Massacre At Tiananmen Square
The day I turned seven they were mourning and grieving
Thousands of innocents die for what they believed in
Come with nothing but heart and a point to prove
Stood infront of tanks and refused to move
What Would You Do?
Run or stand still whens your lifes on the line
To test a mans will
Seeking change and they found but in death
Strangers yet they were my blood and flesh
This happened in China,
But you ain't gotta be asian to relate
To the struggle, pain and hard aches

Chorus:
You'll never know,
You'll never get it,
There is no choice,
We can't forget it
We look up
We see the same sky
We look up
We cry the very same cry

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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2005, 05:33:18 PM »
About the closest thing to rap that I can tolerate is some of the stuff by Kid Rock.
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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2005, 05:33:27 PM »
Wow, that's some pretty banal, uninspired, and pretty lewd stuff right there.

I sincereley dislike the part where he invokes the common humanity! That really shows how really shallow this genre is.


Edit: But what really gets me going is that it shows a generally high level of political awareness and acumen! Why doesn't someone do something? For the children!
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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2005, 05:48:59 PM »
I am a firm believer in Sturgeon's Law:
90% of everything is crap

Some folks see Sturgeon's Law as somewhat negative.  

I, OTOH, am the optimist & look on the brighter side.  No matter how worthless, vile, talentless, or just plain banal some thing or some genre is, 10% may actually be something better than crap.  It might rise to the level of, "mildly interesting" or even, "not something for which I would hunt down the perpetrator and beat with a 2x4 for stealing that 3 minutes, 45 second of my life."

So far, I must rely on my faith in Sturgeon's Law with regard to rap, as I have yet to hear anything that is not...crap.
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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2005, 06:11:21 PM »
Daniel, in spite of my middle age, I do find some of it interesting to listen to. Not the mainstream gangsta stuff, though.

I like Will Smith, some Black Eyed Peas, some other ones too that sadly I would have to ask my son their names. I know the music but couldn't tell you who does it. There's a rap song called "My Old Ky Home" that is popular around here. The radio station lists the artist as K.D. and the Villbillies. My son says it's some of the guys from Nappy Roots.

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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2005, 06:12:55 PM »
I don't know if I'd call Gorillaz rap, but if y'all want to that's fine. They're good. A coupla songs by Eminem (esp. "Just Lose It" Cheesy), that "Tipsy" song by J-Kwon, Black Eyed Peas. I love Xavier Naidoo. His music is awesome, and he sings mostly in German so if the lyrics are awful or base I don't notice. Wink
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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2005, 06:13:37 PM »
Deltron 3030
Dilated Peoples (Thanks Dan!)
Gorillaz are alright
Eminem may be a turd, but the guy's a walking thesaurus.
Beastie Boys are, of course, classic.
DJ Krush has some hiphop influenced stuff, and let me just say that staccato rap delivered in Japanese is one of those things that shouldn't work, but does. (Specifically thinking of the track "Kanji" here.)

To be honest, lately I've been a big fan of the whole underground-underground Nerdcore scene.
MC Frontalot Optimus Rhyme and MC Chris are probably the best examples of Nerdcore.

When it comes to techno, electronica, and hiphop I'd like to propose what I call Justin's Corollary to Sturgeon's Law: 97% of everything is crap.  But that last 3% is pretty fly.

Remember, the rap played on mainstream FM radio sucks just as much as the rock/country/western/whatever that gets played on all the other FM stations.  This is a result of FM radio being an idiotic delivery system designed not so much to appeal to anyone as it is to dish out the same uncreative tripe in the hope that you won't change the station during a commercial break.
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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2005, 06:21:00 PM »
+1 on that last bit justin.
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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2005, 06:30:57 PM »
Quote from: Justin
To be honest, lately I've been a big fan of the whole underground-underground Nerdcore scene.
MC Frontalot Optimus Rhyme and MC Chris are probably the best examples of Nerdcore.
Its funny that you say that because I've been exploring Asian rap lately...definitely underground-underground as well.

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« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2005, 08:28:23 PM »
It's funny how diverse we are as gunnies.
The closest I've EVER come to enjoying rap were things that might have even been done before some of you guys were born:
Sugar Hill Gang.

I still contend that the music of George Clinton, Bootsy Collins, and the Gap Band were the beginnings of rap.

It's kinda like Einstein and Kiera Knightley having a retarded baby.  You expect great things from such a union, but instead, you get this drooling seizure of an offspring, that has to wear a helmet and ride around in a padded chair: Rap.

Hardcore Funk= like drinking peppermint schnapps with a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale chaser with a ski bunny named Ilse after a really nice December day on the slopes at Snowshoe.  

Rap= like being the last one leaving the range as the sun is setting on a clouded over October evening as the days are getting shorter, and you get back to your truck, only to find that somebody's fat kid named Eugene spit his peppermint candy from Sonic onto your freshly waxed hood, so you try to wipe it off and it gets all over your hands instead.  But since his dad is the president of the shooting club, AND your boss, you know you can't say anything about it, even though everyone just wants to pound the tar out of little Eugene.

Sorry...I got a little carried away.
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« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2005, 08:45:26 PM »
You have GOT to be kidding...
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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2005, 08:51:31 PM »
Quote from: Mike Irwin
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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2005, 10:58:08 PM »
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Rap= like being the last one leaving the range as the sun is setting on a clouded over October evening as the days are getting shorter, and you get back to your truck, only to find that somebody's fat kid named Eugene spit his peppermint candy from Sonic onto your freshly waxed hood, so you try to wipe it off and it gets all over your hands instead.  But since his dad is the president of the shooting club, AND your boss, you know you can't say anything about it, even though everyone just wants to pound the tar out of little Eugene.


Seriously though, I love Atmosphere, Sage Francis, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Common, Canibus, Blackalicious and a whole bunch of other less-than-mainstream rappers. It's a damn shame that talented, intelligent rappers get relegated to "underground" status, while the guys who blabber about "big-booty b*tches" and huge rims get the fame.
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