Author Topic: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap  (Read 12060 times)

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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2010, 09:37:53 PM »
I've often wished I was an FBI agent who was independently wealthy.  It would be glorious to walk into the office of some high end, Constitutional trampling politician and arrest him/her, cuff 'em and stuff 'em.
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2010, 09:57:46 PM »
Where would you get the warrant?

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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2010, 12:16:45 AM »
Where would you get the warrant?

Standard operating procedure:  judge shop.  Sooner or later, you'll find a judge that will sign just about anything.
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2010, 12:19:19 AM »
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Can the fed.gov "legally" ignore their own immigration laws?

Who the hell's going to call them on it? And by call them own it, I mean have the means to actually do something about it (and playing musical chairs with representatives and senators doesn't seem to be doing anything)

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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2010, 06:17:30 AM »
Who the hell's going to call them on it? And by call them own it, I mean have the means to actually do something about it (and playing musical chairs with representatives and senators doesn't seem to be doing anything)

If you have nearly unlimited funds you could shower them with petitions for a Writ of Mandamus.

I know I would be amused sitting there listening to the Solicitor General (junior flunky grade) telling the court that while, yes, there are laws against coming into the country without first touching all the bases and collecting the required signatures/stamps, the fed.gov just does not have the money to prosecute, but has more than sufficient funds to pay the costs of catch&release.

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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2010, 09:18:56 AM »
Isn't it unconstitutional for states to engage in trade wars?

I think so based on some federal case law.  State governments (and perhaps local governments within a state) can't screw around with interstate commence or some such thing.

I could be wrong though not being a lawyer and all that.  =)

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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2010, 12:59:13 PM »
I think so based on some federal case law.  State governments (and perhaps local governments within a state) can't screw around with interstate commence or some such thing.

I could be wrong though not being a lawyer and all that.  =)
It seems to me that states/cities/individuals can CHOOSE not to do business with anyone they want . . . and I don't see how the Feds can come in and dictate that someone WILL do business with someone they don't want to. (We'll see how the mandated purchase of health insurance in Obamacare fares in court.)

The wrinkle comes in if there's a law on the books that requires government contracts and such to be awarded via a competitive bidding process. To exclude a legal entity from bidding, or to refuse to award a bid to the lowest legitimate bidder, would appear to be unlawful.

I also suspect that L.A.'s local government would run into problems if they tried to prohibit individuals and private companies from doing business with Arizona . . . they're probably smart enough to realize that themselves.

As far as cutting off LA's power (   =D  ) as good an idea as it seems, that may be a problem since various California individuals and companies own pieces of Arizona's power utilities.
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2010, 02:17:13 AM »
>Where would you get the warrant?<

Can't police detain on probable cause that a crime is being committed?

Isn't passage of an unconstitutional law criminal?

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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2010, 08:20:26 PM »
Isn't it unconstitutional for states to engage in trade wars?

I believe you've hit on the main purpose of the "Commerce Clause". It would be historic to actually see it used as originally intended, instead of all the bastardized ways it's been twisted to suit the gov's need for power.
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2010, 10:38:00 PM »
Misdemeanors need to commited in the presence of the officer of the law in order for a warrantless arrest.  Felonies do not.  Probable cause us sufficient.  Last time I looked treason is defined as betrayal of one's country.  If violating the precepts of the Constitution is not a betrayal, then I don't know what it might be, thus treason.
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2010, 10:39:03 PM »
Villaraigosa had a crony underling spokesman make a brief response to the letter:


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