Author Topic: How about Wisconsin?  (Read 37320 times)

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How about Wisconsin?
« on: February 17, 2011, 03:15:07 PM »
I'm lovin' it.   =D

Anything that sticks it to the NEA, SEIU, AFL-CIO and other giant bloated unions is A-OK in my book.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/116381289.html

WI has a watershed Tea Party election this fall.  They vote to ACTUALLY CUT SPENDING on schools and such.  To ACTUALLY CUT WAGES to teachers by a reasonable amount, just like a business might do to avoid going under.

As such, the teachers abandon their duty to teach, call in "sick" and several thousand of them (and their brainwashed captive audiences) come to the Capitol to protest the Republican vote.

Then, the Dem senators abscond from the premises.  The po-po are looking for them right now and will drag them back to the Capitol to compel them to represent the People for a vote.  It's rumored that enough to block a quorum have fled the State, out of the state police jurisdiction.

I'm lovin' it.

If they stall this up some more, for another election cycle, I'm gonna love the next tally of Tea Party / non-Tea Party representation even more.

WI is evidence we're taking this country back.  We'll balance the several States independently, first, then we'll balance the FedGov.  It's just a matter of if we have enough credit to buy us the time.  Which I worry about. :'(
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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2011, 03:28:16 PM »
They actually fled the state. It would be difficult for the WI State Patrol to go arrest them.

If they refused to leave IL or MN (money's on IL in the Chicago area...) and come back, they may actually have to have some kind of Extradition hearing in the other state.  :P

I know they pulled this stunt in Texas a few times, I don't know how it was resolved, just that it eventually was.  It won't be for running out of money to stay on the lam though, I'm sure all sorts of labor/liberal groups would be happy to front them money for hotels and meals as long as they needed.

Although only ONE Democrat needs to have his arse hauled back into the Capitol to force a quorum. So maybe one or more of them is still hiding out in WI and gets fingered by a friend/family/acquaintance who does not agree with them politically.
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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2011, 03:31:54 PM »
The story says that Scott Fitzgerald remembers 1995 as the last time this happened. I remember an incident in the last decade where legislators (Dem's, IIRC) fled the state.

Thousands of state employees taking off work or simply playing hooky because the governor wants to "cut" some benefits. He wants them to pay 12% of their health care. Wow! The humanity!

I know countless people who've lost their jobs in the last few years, and many who've been unable to find new jobs. I now make what I was making in 1987, and make half of what I made in 1997. That's the way things go.

Walker has told the unions that there will have to be cuts in benefits, or there will be jobs cut. He did that as Milwaukee County executive, too. He offered the unions a furlough plan, where workers would take an unpaid day off each week. The alternative was to lay off workers. The union chose to have workers laid off (the ones with the least seniority, of course).

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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2011, 03:34:44 PM »

Obama called the Governor's actions an assault on unions.  Must have gotten the word from SEIU and his old "community organizer" handlers.
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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2011, 03:38:30 PM »
Obama called the Governor's actions an assault on unions.  Must have gotten the word from SEIU and his old "community organizer" handlers.

Assault the unions? Yep.

Pretty much why I voted for him.  =)
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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2011, 03:41:16 PM »

    Obama or the Governor?

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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2011, 03:48:46 PM »
    Obama or the Governor?


The Governor.  =)

Obama gave GM to the UAW.  =|
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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2011, 06:10:09 PM »
Yep, they are hiding in Illinois.....


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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2011, 06:11:06 PM »
Drudge is reporting that the lost lawmakers are at a resort in Illinois. Most likely at the expense of the taxpayers. Wonder if the bus that took them was paid by Unions or the taxpayer.
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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2011, 06:20:24 PM »
The democrats fled Texas several years ago to New Mexico.  The Republicans were doing redistricting after the census and the Democrats didn't like losing some of their power.  The Gov kept calling special sessions until they showed up. 
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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2011, 06:36:46 PM »

And it worked too.  Another reason I like Gov Perry.  Add to that he has a CHL and carries. 
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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2011, 06:37:35 PM »
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The democrats fled Texas several years ago to New Mexico.  The Republicans were doing redistricting after the census and the Democrats didn't like losing some of their power.  The Gov kept calling special sessions until they showed up.

That's what I was remembering. It wasn't WI, but Texas.

I wonder if there's a way to prevent the Democrats from ever returning to WI?

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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2011, 08:14:04 PM »
Wasn't it Regan who fired all the aircraft controllers?
I'm thinking thats what needs to happen to teachers that continue to skip work, causing schools to shut down. Imagine all the qualified unemployed people in other states who might be happy to move to WI and teach.

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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2011, 08:24:16 PM »
LOL-worthy.

Dick, can you identify either of them? I'm comparing them to the WI legislature site...

http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/02/17/video-tea-party-activist-confronts-wisconsin-democrats-as-they-flee-illinois-resort/

I think it's Jim Hoplerin and Dave Hansen or Robert Jauch...  :laugh:
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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2011, 09:34:45 PM »
So schools are closed so that the teachers can whine. Who is doing the educating? Fire them all, hire new ones, not like we're short on liberal arts degrees.
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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2011, 09:41:20 PM »
It should get interesting here in Ohio.  We have a similar bill that has been introduced and as expected the unions are on in force against the bill.    [popcorn]
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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2011, 10:24:34 PM »
The second guy in the video looks like Bob Jauch. He's sure gained a lot of weight since 2002, when he told CCW supporters in the gallery to grow up after Chvala's tricks.

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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2011, 10:28:41 PM »
Good, for a minute there, I was terrified Ted Kennedy had come back as a Zombie and was advising the WI Democratic Caucus...  [tinfoil]
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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2011, 12:41:13 AM »
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The po-po are looking for them right now and will drag them back to the Capitol to compel them to represent the People
Is there a law that requires the State Reps to be present at all sessions?
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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2011, 01:03:16 AM »
Is there a law that requires the State Reps to be present at all sessions?

Rules of the senate and the power vested in the Master At Arms. They don't enforce specific attendance, but can force a quorum.
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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2011, 09:48:45 AM »
I saw on TV that the unions in Wisconsin are revolting - I've known that for a long time.  ;)

Once they're back in session, they ought to pass a law that says absence of a legislator from a session for anything other than illness, emergency, or military service constitutes resignation from office, with the vacancy to be filled by gubernatorial appointment. 
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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2011, 10:03:25 AM »
I saw on TV that the unions in Wisconsin are revolting - I've known that for a long time.  ;)

Once they're back in session, they ought to pass a law that says absence of a legislator from a session for anything other than illness, emergency, or military service constitutes resignation from office, with the vacancy to be filled by gubernatorial appointment. 

What they need to pass are laws that prevent public employees from participating in unions. 
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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2011, 10:12:32 AM »
After the revolution starts, can someone come and spread it to Illinois?

Please......
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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2011, 10:15:56 AM »
What they need to pass are laws that prevent public employees from participating in unions. 

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Re: How about Wisconsin?
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2011, 11:32:31 AM »
Wisconsin teachers have their own health insurance company that's run by the union. They pay almost nothing into it, but are insured for life. They're paid $50K+ for 9 months work. They can retire after 30 years (my neighbor retired at 55).

More than half of the increases in appropriations for the Milwaukee school district goes to teacher benefits.

As for public employees being underpaid, well, that depends upon how the employee plays his cards. There's plenty of public employees who've done well for themselves. A couple of years ago the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel did a story on public employees making six figures. A registred nurse at a county correctional facility was making over $200,000 with overtime. There's plenty of Milwaukee police officers making over $100k.

Milwaukee cops (firefighters, too, I think) get 95% of their last five years pay as pension after 25 years, 100% after 30 years, and 105% after 35 years. So, a cop could easily retire at 55 and make more than he made on the job.

I'm sure everyone here has heard my story about a friend who was a Milwaukee building inspector, got himself on disability in 1985 (how he's disabled, I don't know; he can do anything), and recently switched from disability to his pension. He hasn't worked in 25 years and he's getting a pension.

But ask these folks to pay 12.5% of their health insurance or half of their pension costs and it's the end of the world.

I wish Walker had the power to fire all of the teachers, as Reagan did with the air traffic controllers.