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Professional courtesy
« on: August 21, 2011, 10:02:35 AM »
Mob of ethnic yoots descend on a 7-11 and steal a bunch of candy and drinks and ice cream.  Clerk pushes the panic button to alert police that a robbery is in progress.  Police wait until they leave, then don't even bother to take a copy of the very clear store video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHyug2PvpB8

Police captain interviewed at the end says "We're going to take this very seriously"  ;/
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Re: Professional courtesy
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2011, 10:22:42 AM »
What profit is there in catching thugs?

Writing tickets is where the money is.
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Re: Professional courtesy
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2011, 10:55:52 AM »

It comes from the top down.  My university police had very strict rules to ignore as much actual crime as possible.    Safety statistics are a huge selling point to parents.   More than a few officers hated the unofficial policy, but had to follow it.   

Go straight to the top and put blame where it is due.
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Re: Professional courtesy
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2011, 12:06:05 PM »
When I got the police involved with an attempted rape at the place I was being a security guard for, suddenly away went my benefits and hours.  Guard working the camera and radios seemed to be working to help the guy get away.  Not only directing folks away from the flight path but making sure the cameras only caught the back of the guy.  I've long thought wild incompetence, but do now sometimes wonder if he was just more of a company man minimizing possible publicity exposure. 

Also, just watched Freakanomics last night [half of it anyways].  Reason the solve rates for crimes is so high in Japan is because they don't record any crimes they don't think they can solve.
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Re: Professional courtesy
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2011, 12:08:43 PM »
Quote from: Ned Hamford on August 21, 2011, 12:06:05 PM
When I got the police involved with an attempted rape at the place I was being a security guard for, suddenly away went my benefits and hours.  Guard working the camera and radios seemed to be working to help the guy get away.  Not only directing folks away from the flight path but making sure the cameras only caught the back of the guy.  I've long thought wild incompetence, but do now sometimes wonder if he was just more of a company man minimizing possible publicity exposure. 

Also, just watched Freakanomics last night [half of it anyways].  Reason the solve rates for crimes is so high in Japan is because they don't record any crimes they don't think they can solve.
Also because they torture confessions out of people from what I've heard.
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Re: Professional courtesy
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2011, 12:22:32 PM »
i'm feeling a typical round eye level of understanding of japanese culture/society
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Re: Professional courtesy
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2011, 02:53:11 PM »
Quote from: Ned Hamford on August 21, 2011, 12:06:05 PM

Also, just watched Freakanomics last night [half of it anyways].  Reason the solve rates for crimes is so high in Japan is because they don't record any crimes they don't think they can solve.

That....and, like Great Britain, crimes are not recorded unless the perp is convicted....unlike the US where the crime is recorded when charges are filed.....
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Re: Professional courtesy
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2011, 06:56:47 PM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on August 21, 2011, 12:22:32 PM
i'm feeling a typical round eye level of understanding of japanese culture/society

That's racist!

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Re: Professional courtesy
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2011, 07:15:44 PM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on August 21, 2011, 12:22:32 PM
i'm feeling a typical round eye level of understanding of japanese culture/society

If you feel they're wrong on some point, enlighten us as to why. This kind of vague sniping doesn't really add anything to the discussion.
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Re: Professional courtesy
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2011, 11:36:14 PM »
Quote from: Regolith on August 21, 2011, 07:15:44 PM
If you feel they're wrong on some point, enlighten us as to why. This kind of vague sniping doesn't really add anything to the discussion.

I'm feeling a typical spacemannish level of your understanding of CSD's posting proclivities.

You;re probably feeling a typical earth-bound level o understanding from me.  And my dogs.
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Re: Professional courtesy
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2011, 03:43:50 AM »
Quote from: zxcvbob on August 21, 2011, 10:02:35 AM
Mob of ethnic yoots descend on a 7-11 and steal a bunch of candy and drinks and ice cream.  Clerk pushes the panic button to alert police that a robbery is in progress.  Police wait until they leave, then don't even bother to take a copy of the very clear store video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHyug2PvpB8

Police captain interviewed at the end says "We're going to take this very seriously"  ;/

Did the news report censor the interviewee around :35?

"You can see from the video, about 25 to 35 . . . *strange pause with a click* . . . eenagers came into the store. . . "

(I left the t off of "teenagers" on purpose, that's how it sounded)
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Re: Professional courtesy
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2011, 07:47:24 AM »
first article is the best


http://www.jameswebb.com/articles/parade-japaneseprisons.html

http://www.slate.com/id/2288514/

http://www.britsoccrim.org/volume6/008.pdf

in 1923 the kanto earthquake a wall at the max security prison fell down.  no one left
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Re: Professional courtesy
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2011, 08:22:25 AM »
Quote from: zxcvbob on August 21, 2011, 10:02:35 AM
. . .  Police wait until they leave, then don't even bother to take a copy of the very clear store video. . . .
Reminds me of one of the riots in L.A. in which police appeared to be standing by, simply watching, as stores were being looted; in essence, they were the looters' security detail, there to make sure no shopkeepers would harm them.   :mad:
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Re: Professional courtesy
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Re: Professional courtesy
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2011, 02:00:36 PM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on August 22, 2011, 01:28:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmsKGhLdZuQ&feature=related

That was interesting. They didn't look like they came ready to kill though, more to just scare people away. I don't even know if legally you can shoot people in that sort of situation.
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