Author Topic: How about we address the overt stuff first?  (Read 12894 times)

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Re: How about we address the overt stuff first?
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2012, 11:52:30 AM »
How many Americans actually fly, though? I think people forget that a lot of us aren't opting out of the body scanner simply because we don't travel often enough or far enough to be at the airport (or not very often) and we prefer to travel by automobile.

I think we would find, if we commissioned a study, that people who are most prickly about their individual liberty, or most resistant to strip-searching and body-scanning; are people who don't want to be in a crowded airliner fuselage anyway. Us curmudgeonly sorts prefer the open road, and only travel by airline if the benefits far outweigh the costs.

It could also be a matter of tax bracket.
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Re: How about we address the overt stuff first?
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2012, 12:03:33 PM »
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Now, I'm just hopeful she doesn't die in a gutter choking on her own vomit.

I'm just trying to stay out of the way of the mess.
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Re: How about we address the overt stuff first?
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2012, 06:10:16 AM »
How many Americans actually fly, though? I think people forget that a lot of us aren't opting out of the body scanner simply because we don't travel often enough or far enough to be at the airport (or not very often) and we prefer to travel by automobile.

I think we would find, if we commissioned a study, that people who are most prickly about their individual liberty, or most resistant to strip-searching and body-scanning; are people who don't want to be in a crowded airliner fuselage anyway. Us curmudgeonly sorts prefer the open road, and only travel by airline if the benefits far outweigh the costs.

It could also be a matter of tax bracket.

TSA claims two BILLION passenger screenings per year in American airports.  Not all are Americans, obviously, but most are. And sure, a lot of those are frequent-flyers - but Ma and Pa Smith travel to see the grand-kidlets once a year or so - and there are a LOT of Smiths.

Having said that - it's the frequent-flyers, not the Smiths, who tend to be more up-in-arms over the violations forced on the travelling public by the TSA, because they face them more often.

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Re: How about we address the overt stuff first?
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2012, 11:27:14 AM »
I just refused to go back to CA this week for work, partly because the customer is such a jerk but mostly because of the TSA crap.

If I could drive there in one day, I would.


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Re: How about we address the overt stuff first?
« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2012, 06:41:11 PM »
America is like a drug addicted family member. 
Early in our relationship, I was an enabler.
Then, when I awoke to the depths of her depravity, I just hoped she would get better.
Now, I'm just hopeful she doesn't die in a gutter choking on her own vomit.

I'm borrowing that for possible later quoting.
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Re: How about we address the overt stuff first?
« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2012, 02:36:41 AM »
I just refused to go back to CA this week for work, partly because the customer is such a jerk but mostly because of the TSA crap.

If I could drive there in one day, I would.


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I wish I had that option. :laugh:
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Re: How about we address the overt stuff first?
« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2012, 11:39:49 AM »
I wish I had that option. :laugh:

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