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Re: Evidently DHS needs MRAPs
« Reply #50 on: March 05, 2013, 09:27:19 AM »
Tokugawa, those were the 22 each BATF OV-10 Broncos I posted about earlier in this thread.

They got them from the DoD, were busted, and subsequently gave them to the State Department, who still has them.
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Re: Evidently DHS needs MRAPs
« Reply #51 on: March 05, 2013, 09:40:18 AM »
Several years ago, the BATF got their pee-pee smacked for assembling an air wing of 22 surplus USMC OV-10 Broncos.

The State Department owns them now, and they deploy out of Patrick AFB, spraying South American cocaine fields with Round Up.   

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Re: Evidently DHS needs MRAPs
« Reply #52 on: March 05, 2013, 09:41:49 PM »
I wonder what restrictions there are on reselling the stuff once it's in their possession. If it was legal, an enterprising police department could basically become self-funding by reselling milsurp and any other "surplus" equipment they don't need anymore.

20 years ago, they picked up 10 M-16A1 rifles.  Within months, they legally sold these to a Class 3 dealer and bought 20 law enforcement only M4geries with the funds, and had money left.  They were 1970's manufacture, so the dealer gave them a pretty penny fr them, and sold them the LEO rifles at cost.



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Re: Evidently DHS needs MRAPs
« Reply #53 on: March 06, 2013, 01:06:06 AM »


The MRAP is pretty good at defending folks from lightly armed, small ragtag groups of bad guys in an arid desert climate.



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Re: Evidently DHS needs MRAPs
« Reply #54 on: March 06, 2013, 11:38:46 AM »


I also don't even think this is a credible source. Again, i've heard NOTHING official about large MRAP purchases by DHS.



I agree, considering that gateway pundit is big on speculation and making stuff up, and short on facts.  Their cited source is modernsurvivalblog.  I don't know anything about them, but I am skeptical.
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Re: Evidently DHS needs MRAPs
« Reply #55 on: March 06, 2013, 11:41:52 AM »
I agree, considering that gateway pundit is big on speculation and making stuff up, and short on facts.  Their cited source is modernsurvivalblog.  I don't know anything about them, but I am skeptical.

Again, i know we have them, but I have no credible info about numbers.


BTW, i asked the folks here what HSI was doing in CO. They said that there's a lot of smuggling/migrant traffic through there enroute to other places.


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Re: Evidently DHS needs MRAPs
« Reply #56 on: March 06, 2013, 03:45:20 PM »
Again, i know we have them, but I have no credible info about numbers.


BTW, i asked the folks here what HSI was doing in CO. They said that there's a lot of smuggling/migrant traffic through there enroute to other places.


Thanks for asking.



Also for the board's perusing...

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/page/294634_Factchecking-_Obama_DHS_Purcha

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Re: Evidently DHS needs MRAPs
« Reply #57 on: March 07, 2013, 10:18:59 AM »

Approximately 16 ish.

http://www.businessinsider.com/homeland-security-serving-warrants-mrap-2013-3


So, sorta true but very very exaggerated.
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Re: Evidently DHS needs MRAPs
« Reply #58 on: March 07, 2013, 10:23:20 AM »
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The MRAPs were transferred to DHS from the Department of Defense, free of charge. But despite recent reports, they have actually been in service since at least 2008.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/homeland-security-serving-warrants-mrap-2013-3#ixzz2MrsxejRK

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On May 3, 2012, three ICE agents were shot and injured while serving "high-risk" warrants during an early morning sweep of San Francisco Bay area gang members, according to a report from Yahoo! News.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/homeland-security-serving-warrants-mrap-2013-3#ixzz2Mrt6yHxg
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Re: Evidently DHS needs MRAPs
« Reply #59 on: March 07, 2013, 01:12:42 PM »
Approximately 16 ish.

http://www.businessinsider.com/homeland-security-serving-warrants-mrap-2013-3


So, sorta true but very very exaggerated.

So - we've had a special militarized federal police for five years.

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Re: Evidently DHS needs MRAPs
« Reply #60 on: March 07, 2013, 02:13:01 PM »
So - we've had a special militarized federal police for five years.

I feel so much better now.

You've had it for a lot longer than 5 years

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege
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Re: Evidently DHS needs MRAPs
« Reply #61 on: March 07, 2013, 02:32:50 PM »
You've had it for a lot longer than 5 years

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege

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Re: Evidently DHS needs MRAPs
« Reply #62 on: March 07, 2013, 02:48:38 PM »
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I wonder what restrictions there are on reselling the stuff once it's in their possession. If it was legal, an enterprising police department could basically become self-funding by reselling milsurp and any other "surplus" equipment they don't need anymore.

A lot of the DRMO stuff they have to hold on to and inventory each year because it's a loan, not a gift.

A lot of departments screwed up and  have been cut off. Like selling the M-16s? It was legal as far as full auto rifles are concerned but the stickler is they sold .gov property when they weren't supposed too. If you were to do that nowadays, with say, shotguns or M-9s they'd get slapped pretty hard.

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