Author Topic: The third rail is still hot!  (Read 4524 times)

makattak

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Re: The third rail is still hot!
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2013, 01:38:21 PM »
So, Mak, what you're saying is that by going on a business trip, and leaving my safe and contents behind, this bill would define the acrus as a sale of my firearms and require that I do an FFL transfer to my wife?  Then, when i return, she would have to do an FFL transfer back to me?  And, if we take a trip together, and her parents come stay with the kids, I have to do a transfer to the in-laws, and then back again when I return?  That would be assinine.

If the bill is as I remember, yes. Though the bill does not require simply all sales go through an FFL. All TRANSFERS have to go through an FFL. It doesn't have to be defined as a sale, it was a transfer. (Thus, any gift, inheritance, etc... has to be done through an FFL.)

And it was written by Chuck Schumer. Of course it's asinine. (Although your spelling it probably a better description of Schumer.)
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Re: The third rail is still hot!
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2013, 01:40:43 PM »
If the bill is as I remember, yes. Though the bill does not require simply all sales go through an FFL. All TRANSFERS have to go through an FFL. It doesn't have to be defined as a sale, it was a transfer.

And it was written by Chuck Schumer. Of course it's asinine. (Although your spelling it probably a better description of Schumer.)

Sorrry for the spelling.  Damned virtual keyboard on this tablet drives me crazy.
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Re: The third rail is still hot!
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2013, 01:41:40 PM »
Sorrry for the spelling.  Damned virtual keyboard on this tablet drives me crazy.

Are you kidding? It was completely appropriate!  :laugh:
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Re: The third rail is still hot!
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2013, 01:56:50 PM »
I just pulled the actual bill language, and frankly find it interesting.  It does provide for exceptions for estates.  And, it also provides for an exception for a "bona fide gift" between "parents and their children, siblings, and grandparents and their grandchildren."  Interesting...I guess my grandfather cannot give my children his 1911.  the problem with making a list is that by including one thing, you inherently exclude everything else.

Badly written legislation.  Looks like Schumer's attempts to get bi-partisan support failed over record-keeping reqiurements...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/06/chuck-schumer-background-check-bill_n_2822964.html



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