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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #375 on: July 15, 2013, 12:11:25 AM »
If DOJ intervenes and files some civil rights action, the precedent is dangerous, as they will be put in a position of having to explain why they didn't filenthe same action in the next homicide. And the one after that. And the next one...  Holder is a fool, but I hope even a fool sees the danger in this action...

I thought that only a .gov entity could violate your civil rights?  That's why there was Rodney King civil rights trial.  They were police officers.  Since the state/local came back with the wrong verdict the Feds had to file Civil Rights charges to get the right verdict.   Same thing here.  But Chris is correct.  If the do file Civil Rights, this will set a very, very, very bad precedent. 
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #376 on: July 15, 2013, 12:14:39 AM »
Interesting how?

He was a wanna-be cop remember, he should have had a cop gun.

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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #377 on: July 15, 2013, 12:22:26 AM »
I thought that only a .gov entity could violate your civil rights?  That's why there was Rodney King civil rights trial.  They were police officers.  Since the state/local came back with the wrong verdict the Feds had to file Civil Rights charges to get the right verdict.   Same thing here.  But Chris is correct.  If the do file Civil Rights, this will set a very, very, very bad precedent. 

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/14/3500052/federal-case-against-zimmerman.html
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #378 on: July 15, 2013, 02:18:12 AM »
One.

Any documentation on the state of the chamber/slide/extraction when the weapon was surrendered to the police?

Reason I'm curious is as a PF-9 owner, in what appears to have been a very close contact self defense usage.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #379 on: July 15, 2013, 03:19:15 AM »
Any documentation on the state of the chamber/slide/extraction when the weapon was surrendered to the police?

Reason I'm curious is as a PF-9 owner, in what appears to have been a very close contact self defense usage.

Touching fabric, about 4" away from his skin. Single round fired ejected and next round loaded. Zimmerman holstered prior to the police arriving. Operated perfectly.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #380 on: July 15, 2013, 07:50:56 AM »
What are the odds they try and sue Kel-Tec out of business?
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #381 on: July 15, 2013, 08:40:32 AM »
One article I read referred to the gun as a "Kel Tec-9"  ;/
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #382 on: July 15, 2013, 08:46:19 AM »
Touching fabric, about 4" away from his skin. Single round fired ejected and next round loaded. Zimmerman holstered prior to the police arriving. Operated perfectly.

This. The PF functioned perfectly.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #383 on: July 15, 2013, 09:07:04 AM »
What are the odds they try and sue Kel-Tec out of business?

Small company, not tons of money to fight, odds good. What will the argument be though? There is no "the gun just went off" issue here, no .500 Linebaugh unusually cruel caliber made for people who hate hoodies. Maybe they will try the you made a gun cheap enough for a neighborhood watchmn to buy angle.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #384 on: July 15, 2013, 09:23:04 AM »
What are the odds they try and sue Kel-Tec out of business?
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #385 on: July 15, 2013, 11:44:36 AM »
So who won the riot pool?
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #386 on: July 15, 2013, 02:00:10 PM »
So who won the riot pool?
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #387 on: July 15, 2013, 02:40:38 PM »
Small company, not tons of money to fight, odds good. What will the argument be though? There is no "the gun just went off" issue here

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« Reply #388 on: July 15, 2013, 02:56:04 PM »
I just saw Holder announced a confirmation on the civil rights probe for the "unnecessary" shooting of Martin. Because I guess when you're getting your head bashed in and your skin is lighter than the head basher's, it's "unnecessary" for you to do anything about it.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #389 on: July 15, 2013, 03:02:36 PM »
I just saw Holder announced a confirmation on the civil rights probe for the "unnecessary" shooting of Martin. Because I guess when you're getting your head bashed in and your skin is lighter than the head basher's, it's "unnecessary" for you to do anything about it.

FBI thinks otherwise.

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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #390 on: July 15, 2013, 03:04:03 PM »
I just saw Holder announced a confirmation on the civil rights probe for the "unnecessary" shooting of Martin. Because I guess when you're getting your head bashed in and your skin is lighter than the head basher's, it's "unnecessary" for you to do anything about it.

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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #391 on: July 15, 2013, 04:02:03 PM »
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #392 on: July 15, 2013, 04:18:31 PM »
Am I the only one in the US who thinks that here and now, in 2013, race is absolutely irrelevant to pretty much anything, and therefore why is anyone talking about it?  It's odd.  Was all this race talk all over the place back in say 2000-2008 and I just missed it?  Seems like race was something people didn't really talk much about, then ZMOG!  It's everywhere.

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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #393 on: July 15, 2013, 04:20:59 PM »
Am I the only one in the US who thinks that here and now, in 2013, race is absolutely irrelevant to pretty much anything, and therefore why is anyone talking about it?  It's odd.  Was all this race talk all over the place back in say 2000-2008 and I just missed it?  Seems like race was something people didn't really talk much about, then ZMOG!  It's everywhere.

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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #394 on: July 15, 2013, 04:22:50 PM »
FBI thinks otherwise.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/07/12/155918/more-evidence-released-in-trayvon.html#.UeRHc7Eo5aR

That was mentioned in the Holder article I read. They are going to have to do some serious tapdancing to get around the previous FBI conclusion, but then they have the MSM to help them with that.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #395 on: July 15, 2013, 04:37:43 PM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2364493/NAACP-convention-held-just-miles-site-George-Zimmerman-trial-unofficial-Justice-For-Trayvon-rally.html

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The jury decided in this case, that Martin was the criminal.  And Z was the victim.  Z avoided Martin's lethal attack by employing lethal force of his own, making it justified homicide.  This is what the jury said.

Even if we invert the sentence and consider Z the criminal and Martin the victim (contrary to the verdict), it's still not a lynching.  Martin was killed in a violent altercation he willingly engaged in, as evidenced by the bullet in the front of his body (not in the back). 

Regardless of western or southern inflection, a lynching needs a rope, a mob or posse, and a captured lynchee.  Didn't have any of those.

This is race-baiting on the highest level.  At what point does the "Uncle Tom" vernacular start coming out to augment the lynching vernacular?  Maybe some Negro Jim talk, too.  I'm sure someone, somewhere, has a Sambo doll to throw into the mix. ;/
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #396 on: July 15, 2013, 04:43:48 PM »
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This is race-baiting on the highest level.  At what point does the "Uncle Tom" vernacular start coming out to augment the lynching vernacular?  Maybe some Negro Jim talk, too.  I'm sure someone, somewhere, has a Sambo doll to throw into the mix. ;/

I thought Little Black Sambo was Indian ???
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #397 on: July 15, 2013, 04:57:09 PM »
I thought Little Black Sambo was Indian ???

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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #398 on: July 15, 2013, 05:06:29 PM »
I thought Little Black Sambo was Indian ???

In the book he comes from South India and has to deal with four hungry tigers.
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
« Reply #399 on: July 15, 2013, 05:07:34 PM »
I thought Little Black Sambo was Indian ???

But what about the poor racist tigers?
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