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« Reply #225 on: September 11, 2013, 01:16:48 PM »
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« Reply #226 on: September 11, 2013, 01:36:30 PM »
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« Reply #227 on: September 11, 2013, 01:40:10 PM »
Quote from: fistful on September 11, 2013, 01:16:48 PM
I don't know if this has been reported here, yet.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/wall-street-journal-elizabeth-obagy-fired-96637.html

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“In addition to her role at the Institute for the Study of War, Ms. O’Bagy is affiliated with the Syrian Emergency Task Force, a nonprofit operating as a 501(c)(3) pending IRS approval that subcontracts with the U.S. and British governments to provide aid to the Syrian opposition,” the WSJ added in its clarification.

I wonder if the IRA or Al Qaeda can register for tax-exempt status here in the US, also? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

And even if they deny the 501c3 status... they still tacitly endorse the existence of such an organization by not revoking its incorporation charters and stomping it out of existence.

Once again, the State is a sponsor of terrorism. ;/ :'(
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« Reply #228 on: September 11, 2013, 02:07:17 PM »
Who will provide aid to the US opposition  ???
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« Reply #229 on: September 11, 2013, 08:43:27 PM »
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« Reply #230 on: September 11, 2013, 08:51:53 PM »
Quote from: bedlamite on September 11, 2013, 08:43:27 PM
Something the majority of Americans approve of: Sending Congress to Syria.

That's been posted at least twice now.

It gets funnier as this spirals down.

Lets imagine that Syria agrees to this.  Who goes in to take care of the juice?  The US?  Ha!  So the soviets land in Latakia.  They start "dismantling" weapons.  Suddenly there's a rebel "attack" and there's a pile of dead russkies.  What happens, exactly?

And we just invited vlad to do it.
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« Reply #231 on: September 12, 2013, 10:28:30 AM »
"Obama's "calculus" turns out to be a big steaming natural log."

https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/378136174658740224
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« Reply #232 on: September 12, 2013, 11:40:42 AM »
Some spot on comments on Obama's "I have urgent message, I need Congress to hold off on voting "No" on my use of force resolution."

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2663278477001/krauthammer-responds-to-obamas-speech/
(Ummm, Vietnam anyone?)

Especially this:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2663460205001/091013krauthammer2141/
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« Reply #233 on: September 12, 2013, 12:41:02 PM »
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« Reply #234 on: September 12, 2013, 02:21:43 PM »
Quote from: makattak on September 10, 2013, 02:47:15 PM
Quote from: Chester32141 on September 10, 2013, 01:41:57 PM
Smart Power: In Stark Reversal, Obama Embraces Putin Plan...Which Putin Promptly Rejects[/u]


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« Reply #235 on: September 12, 2013, 02:26:36 PM »
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« Reply #236 on: September 12, 2013, 05:44:06 PM »
We're going to war.

Assad gave an ultimatum to Obama, to stop arming the rebels Al Qaeda. 

The gears of State are already in motion to continue arming the rebels.  Obama can't reverse that... it's too clearly already in motion. 

Obama will reichstag us.  Have a destroyer sunk due to sloppy defensive tactics, or something.

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« Reply #237 on: September 12, 2013, 05:54:50 PM »
Well, at least we won't  have to worry about the Russians storming through the Fulda Gap as was the theme of many a WWIII books after clashes between US and Russia over "some damn fool thing in the Middle East."
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« Reply #238 on: September 12, 2013, 08:34:19 PM »
This cartoon pretty much sums it up:
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« Reply #239 on: September 12, 2013, 09:33:19 PM »
can someone get me a fix on whether the claims contained herein are true?

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‘A large fleet named “Mol Comfort” carrying Arms for FSA from the U.S. has crashed in the Indian Ocean as it made its way from Singapore to Jeddah, on board were 4,500 containers loaded with arms for the Syrian rebels’

Something about the phrasing makes me suspicious

the pictures look real but conspiracy nuts are famous for taking pictures out of context and adding things for flavor
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« Reply #240 on: September 13, 2013, 09:16:25 AM »
The MOL Comfort (a container ship, not a fleet) broke up and sank in the Indian Ocean during rough weather this June.  She was indeed heading from Singapore to Saudi Arabia.

Beyond that..... there is no evidence that I am aware of that it was anything other then structural failure due to bad weather.  The pictures, and the fact that she remained afloat for dang near a month, would lead me to doubt the torpedo theory circulating online.  As to what was in the containers?  Davey Jones only knows. 

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« Reply #241 on: September 13, 2013, 12:15:14 PM »
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« Reply #242 on: September 15, 2013, 12:42:14 AM »
From the Duffle Blog:

http://www.duffelblog.com/2013/09/visit-bashar/

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A Visit From Bashar:

Twas the day after gassing, when throughout the White House
No one’s courage was showing, not as big as a mouse;
The Nobel was hung by the chimney with care,
In hopes that a second soon would be there;

The Syrians were nestled all snug in their graves,
While the President dithered and ranted and raved.
And Kerry in a lather, Hagel a bind,
Both wondered if it were time to resign.

When from the West Wing there arose such a clatter,
That the President’s aides all had to scatter.
Away to the UN they flew like a flash,
Away to the Congress, permission to ask.

“A very red line has now been severed,
The Tomahawks now must be delivered!
Or maybe a letter, quite strongly worded!
The decision has me quite disconcerted.
Perhaps the line was just pinkish instead.
Perhaps all the outrage is just in my head?”

More rapid than eagles his soldiers they came,
And told him that helping al Qaeda was lame.

“Now! Hollande, now! Merkel, now! Cameron of Britain,
“On! Aussies, on! Kiwis, and help us to get him!
“To Damascus, Aleppo! To the Heights at Golan!
“A measured response must surely go on!”

As dry leaves that before the desert wind fly,
The allies’ response made the President sigh;
And then from New York, the United Nations,
“Attacking Assad is not really your station.”

So up to the media the handlers they flew,
With the speech full of threats — and some promises too:

And then in a lather, and then in a calm,
And then with a letter, and then with a bomb,
The President wavered, and then lost his calm.
From his enemy’s Facebook now again came,
A taunt! A taunt! And it gave him great pain!

Assad dressed all in glory, from head to his foot,
With Vladimir Putin very jealous to boot;
Launching shell after shell like a wolf on the flock,
While Assad laughed like a madman and fondled his cock:

His eyes — how they twinkled! His dimples: how manic,
His cheeks glowed like roses, as the President panicked;
Assad’s artillery, drawn up like a bow,
With faces of dead children, white as the snow;
The stump of one child he held tight in his teeth,
While the smoke encircled Syria just like a wreath.

And the President puzzled three hours or more,
Puzzled and puzzled ’til his puzzler was sore.
Then the CINC thought of something he hadn’t before!

“Maybe peace,” he thought, “doesn’t come from a bomb.”
“Maybe peace…perhaps…means responding with calm!”
And what happened then? Well … in the West Wing they say,
That the President’s testes shrank three sizes that day!

Read more: http://www.duffelblog.com
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« Reply #243 on: September 15, 2013, 01:24:46 PM »
Mother Mary and Jesus, it's "The Onion in real life" again. Obama has the nerve to claim that Congress is more concerned "with style over substance" regarding a Syria response. All the while, he's the one who has been 100% dedicated to making statements he thinks people want to hear and that make him look good versus making tactical decisions. Gotta give hos spin machine credit I guess...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/15/obama-defends-syria-policy-says-washington-too-style-conscious/
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« Reply #244 on: September 15, 2013, 06:27:33 PM »
Quote from: Ben on September 15, 2013, 01:24:46 PM
Mother Mary and Jesus, it's "The Onion in real life" again. Obama has the nerve to claim that Congress is more concerned "with style over substance" regarding a Syria response. All the while, he's the one who has been 100% dedicated to making statements he thinks people want to hear and that make him look good versus making tactical decisions. Gotta give hos spin machine credit I guess...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/15/obama-defends-syria-policy-says-washington-too-style-conscious/

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« Reply #245 on: September 19, 2013, 05:56:02 PM »
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« Reply #246 on: September 26, 2013, 01:39:07 PM »
So in lieu of doing anything that, you know, actually needed doing this morning I watched a few videos of the FSA in action. Needless to say those boys don't know how to shoot.

I suggested to an acquaintance that we solve the problem simply by dropping off a palette of Magpul Dynamics videos somewhere convenient and then let the problem sort itself out. I was then informed that those videos are covered by ITAR.

Not that it's stopped them before...
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« Reply #247 on: September 27, 2013, 12:14:39 AM »
A)  They are mostly shooting AK's  (Accuracy?!?!  What's that??)

B)  Aiming is against Islam.  IIRC they cannot willingly take the life of another Muslim.  So they shoot a bunch of bullets over that way and if someone gets hit, well Insha'Allah.

Someone who has more time in the Sandbox can correct me.  We only had one Saudi officer in my MPOB class and that was how he explained it to us.  
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« Reply #248 on: September 27, 2013, 12:23:29 AM »
Quote from: scout26 on September 27, 2013, 12:14:39 AM
A)  They are mostly shooting AK's  (Accuracy?!?!  What's that??)

B)  Aiming is against Islam.  IIRC they cannot willingly take the life of another Muslim.  So they shoot a bunch of bullets over that way and if someone gets hit, well Insha'Allah.

Someone who has more time in the Sandbox can correct me.  We only had one Saudi officer in my MPOB class and that was how he explained it to us.  

Sounds like Brits from 250 years ago.  Just too ungentlemanly to deliberately pick a target on the battlefield and single him out to kill him.  Unsporting, don't you know?

In regards to A), to be fair they have been trained to fight against Americans.  If you show an American soldier so much as a toenail, he'll try and find a way to hit it.  2-3 seconds of exposure to line up a proper shot is also enough time to get splatted, and you're exposing your face and part of your torso to do that.
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« Reply #249 on: September 27, 2013, 05:51:25 AM »
Quote from: scout26 on September 27, 2013, 12:14:39 AM
A)  They are mostly shooting AK's  (Accuracy?!?!  What's that??)

B)  Aiming is against Islam.  IIRC they cannot willingly take the life of another Muslim.  So they shoot a bunch of bullets over that way and if someone gets hit, well Insha'Allah.

Someone who has more time in the Sandbox can correct me.  We only had one Saudi officer in my MPOB class and that was how he explained it to us.  

The Iraqis and Afghans didn't get that memo.  I'd believe it's more likely they have neither the money nor the inclination for good training and you got an excuse.
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