Syria- The Great Big Syrian Civil War thread.

[AZRedhawk44]

What difference, at this point, does it make?

[Tallpine]

I guess that I should keep a look out my north windows to see if any missles are going up 

[Viking]

What difference, at this point, does it make?

None. The story has been decided upon since some time now. Assad = ultimatest evil, probably twirling his moustache. FSA = capable of doing nothing wrong. It carries it's own momentum now. People "know" that the Assad regime used chemical weapons...even if it turns out they actually didn't. People will demand that Something Is Done. Media will show pictures of crying women and children and only show those FSA fighters who aren't al-Qauida, or who can be relied upon to atleast act like they aren't al-Quaida.

[Jocassee]

I don't understand. Iraq was not that long ago.

Is this what it feels like to watch your country go to a completely unnecessary war? I guess every generation has one.

Pure, unadulterated folly coming from Hagel and Kerry.

[roo_ster]

I don't understand. Iraq was not that long ago.

Is this what it feels like to watch your country go to a completely unnecessary war? I guess every generation has one.

Pure, unadulterated folly coming from Hagel and Kerry.

Don't forget Senator John "I never met a country I didn't like--TO BOMB!!" McCain and Jocasse's favorite Senator Lindsey Graham.

[Tallpine]

If Obama had a son, he would look like the Syrian rebels.

Perhaps Big O will see a blinding light on the road to Damascus.

[Balog]

Has anything come from the reports it was the rebels using chemical weapons? Confirmed, denied?

[HankB]

Carla del Ponte.  Yep, her word is definitely good.  

As Switzerland's former attorney general and with a stint as the Swiss ambassador to Argentina, her word is every bit as good as anything coming from people like Robert Gibbs, Jay Carney, and John Kerry.

Probably better.

[fifth_column]

Did somebody mention WWIII?

http://abcnews.go.com/International/russia-warns-catastrophic-consequences-us-meddles-syria/story?id=20081747

Russian officials today hit back at the United States and its allies after Secretary of State John Kerry warned Monday that the Syrian government would face consequences for last week's alleged chemical weapons attack.

[Jocassee]

Don't forget Senator John "I never met a country I didn't like--TO BOMB!!" McCain and Jocasse's favorite Senator Lindsey Graham.

Don't get me started on Lindsey

[TechMan]

Don't get me started on Lindsey

Oh please do.     

[MillCreek]

Perhaps Big O will see a blinding light on the road to Damascus.

Nicely done, sir.  Nicely done, indeed.

[Scout26]

Rebels use of Chemical weapons:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/23/us-syria-crisis-chemicals-activists-idUSBRE97M0HB20130823

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2320223/UN-accuses-Syrian-rebels-carrying-sarin-gas-attacks-blamed-Assads-troops.html

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/UN-strongly-suspects-Syrian-rebels-used-sarin-gas-312178

Which makes sense.   Obama has said use of Chemical weapons is a "Red Line".  The Syrian Army has been pushing back the FSA, so they are "losing".  Play the Chemical Weapons trump card (it's played like the race card) and hopefully get the international community on your side to send weapons, cruise missiles and maybe even ground troops.
    

[Fitz]

Rebels use of Chemical weapons:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/23/us-syria-crisis-chemicals-activists-idUSBRE97M0HB20130823

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2320223/UN-accuses-Syrian-rebels-carrying-sarin-gas-attacks-blamed-Assads-troops.html

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/UN-strongly-suspects-Syrian-rebels-used-sarin-gas-312178

Which makes sense.   Obama has said use of Chemical weapons is a "Red Line".  The Syrian Army has been pushing back the FSA, so they are "losing".  Play the Chemical Weapons trump card (it's played like the race card) and hopefully get the international community on your side to send weapons, cruise missiles and maybe even ground troops.
   

This

As I said elsewhere, Assad  using chemical weapons makes no sense whatsoever. He knows that if he did, the US will intervene. Syrian army was winning. The only possibility that makes sense to me, is that the rebels use the weapons in order to draw us into the conflict ...

And if I am convinced of this, people within the US government are too

I believe that they know this is the truth, and are twisting the story to serve their goals

[Fitz]

I just read a comment, that said even if the rebels did use the chemical weapons, It is still the Syrian regime's fault For not properly securing them


This country is so full of morons

[brimic]

If it weren't gas attacks, it would be mass machete or machine gun murder.
It doesn't matter.
We need to stay out, but unfortunately obama, kerry, and the other bozos have been running their yaps on what the US will or won't do.

[agricola]

I don't understand. Iraq was not that long ago.

Is this what it feels like to watch your country go to a completely unnecessary war? I guess every generation has one.

Pure, unadulterated folly coming from Hagel and Kerry.

Iraq was a logical and completely sensible decision next to this. 

In fact, this (if the attacks take place) may be the most idiotic foriegn policy decision taken by any major state / group of states in recorded history. 

[Fitz]

Iraq was a logical and completely sensible decision next to this. 

I dunno. it seems pretty similar. Only real difference in my mind is the threat of interference from other countries.

[tokugawa]

  Syria had a nice bio weapons program as well. All kinds of nasty bugs.
 Be just the thing for Assad to use in retaliation.....
 The US has had the nearly unheard of advantage of fighting every war since the civil war "over there".
 One of these days we are going to get a horrific wake up call. War will come home.


 
 

  

[grampster]

Our navy should keep the Suez Canal and any other watery places over there open.  Protect the free flow of oil and gas and whatever else moves by water in the middle east.  Beyond that, let those tribalists slug it out on their own and let the best goat fondler win.

[Scout26]

Soooooo, if it turns out that rebels/FSA used chemical weapons, crossing Obama's "Red Line", does that mean we intervene on the side of Assad and the Syrian Army?

 

[Fitz]

Soooooo, if it turns out that rebels/FSA used chemical weapons, crossing Obama's "Red Line", does that mean we intervene on the side of Assad and the Syrian Army?

 

How dare you insinuate that the freedom fighters did any wrong

[lupinus]

Soooooo, if it turns out that rebels/FSA used chemical weapons, crossing Obama's "Red Line", does that mean we intervene on the side of Assad and the Syrian Army?

 

Of course not.

Because if Assad hadn't had them in the first place, the rebels wouldn't have been able to use them

[Scout26]

[Cliffh]

I wouldn't want other countries intervening here either, but largely only for the reason that just about every country that would intervene would support the "other" side.

That's exactly what I was thinking.