Author Topic: Shooting at the DC Navy Yard - 12 shot, 4 of them dead (Read 34083 times)

Azrael256 · « **Reply #25 on:** September 16, 2013, 04:44:33 PM »

Quote from: Chris on September 16, 2013, 04:24:11 PM

Anyone catch that CBS and NBC had to do some fast retractions today when they gave the wrong name for the shooter?

They did? I just assumed it was Richard Jewell.

So is it one perpetrator or three now? I can't keep up.

AZRedhawk44 · « **Reply #26 on:** September 16, 2013, 04:54:40 PM »

Two black men. One that I linked the photo to, and one older, in his 40's or 50's, with grey sideburns.

Shades of the beltway snipers?

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #27 on:** September 16, 2013, 04:55:51 PM »

Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on September 16, 2013, 10:44:35 AM

To be fair, this is at a naval yard. .Mil base. There are armed MP's or whatever equivalent the Navy has, but it isn't a school, airport or mall as is typical of these things.

Whatever military or private (contractor) security they have, it wasn't enough. DC Police responded.

Base security at Fort Hood was civilian police. Dunno just what MPs/ShorePatrol do in regard to base security at U.S. bases these days.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #28 on:** September 16, 2013, 04:58:43 PM »

Quote from: vaskidmark on September 16, 2013, 11:44:39 AM

All of which means when the balloon goes up you are on your own until someone telegraphs to Ft. Apache, Rin Tin Tin and the cavalry saddles up, and they get there - but unlike the movies/TV, not in the nick of time.

As long as they don't send F Troop ...

SADShooter · « **Reply #29 on:** September 16, 2013, 05:02:03 PM »

Quote from: Hawkmoon on September 16, 2013, 04:58:43 PM

As long as they don't send F Troop ...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/16/active-shooter-at-washington-navy-yard/

"More than 20 members of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) responded to the scene, including the same Special Response Team that extracted the alleged Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev from the boat where he barricaded himself following the April 15 attack."

Realize you were likely referencing the comedy cavalry. Just found the coincidence interesting.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #30 on:** September 16, 2013, 05:07:08 PM »

Quote from: SADShooter on September 16, 2013, 05:02:03 PM

Realize you were likely referencing the comedy cavalry. Just found the coincidence interesting.

Yeah, I was referring to the old television show. I forgot so many of you are probably not old enough to even catch the reference.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_Troop

MillCreek · « **Reply #31 on:** September 16, 2013, 05:08:28 PM »

Mr. Alexis was on active duty with the Navy from 2007 to 2011 and left the service as a PO3 aviation electrician, according to the NYT.

vaskidmark · « **Reply #32 on:** September 16, 2013, 05:24:37 PM »

Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on September 16, 2013, 04:21:11 PM

If Obama had a son?

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/09/aaron-alexis-navy-yard-shooter.html

Would anybody like to explain how he morphed from his 2011 picture to his 9/16/2013 picture?

Heck, they just lightened Treyvon's face a bit, but at least kept the same basic shape, the same mouth,, the same eyes, the same .....

stay safe.

AZRedhawk44 · « **Reply #33 on:** September 16, 2013, 05:33:40 PM »

Quote from: vaskidmark on September 16, 2013, 05:24:37 PM

Would anybody like to explain how he morphed from his 2011 picture to his 9/16/2013 picture?

Heck, they just lightened Treyvon's face a bit, but at least kept the same basic shape, the same mouth,, the same eyes, the same .....

stay safe.

Interesting. I had javascript disabled and didn't get the FBI bulletin you're mentioning.

Very different faces.

Part of it could be flash intensity and background color... but there's facial fat and structural differences in the cheekbones. More definition in the brow.

It still seems to be the same guy... I can sort of mentally transpose one pic on top of the other and they match in the right places, but the pics are so radically different in spite of that.

Sergeant Bob · « **Reply #34 on:** September 16, 2013, 05:35:00 PM »

Quote from: vaskidmark on September 16, 2013, 05:24:37 PM

Would anybody like to explain how he morphed from his 2011 picture to his 9/16/2013 picture?

Heck, they just lightened Treyvon's face a bit, but at least kept the same basic shape, the same mouth,, the same eyes, the same .....

stay safe.

Waitone · « **Reply #35 on:** September 16, 2013, 06:01:08 PM »

Ironic, is it not, how the most reliable gun-free zones are military installations. I am sure others have made the same connection.

Hutch · « **Reply #36 on:** September 16, 2013, 06:03:56 PM »

So, any good intel on what sort of firearm the perp used? Just wonder what will be on the top of "must ban" list. Just in case it's not the AR-15 platform.

Azrael256 · « **Reply #37 on:** September 16, 2013, 06:05:13 PM »

Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on September 16, 2013, 05:33:40 PM

Interesting. I had javascript disabled and didn't get the FBI bulletin you're mentioning.

Very different faces.

Part of it could be flash intensity and background color... but there's facial fat and structural differences in the cheekbones. More definition in the brow.

Flash intensity is vastly different. Brighter flash washes out a lot of depth and makes the face flatter. It also looks like the aspect ratios are different. Imagine watching regular TV on a HD set and then look again.

Jamisjockey · « **Reply #38 on:** September 16, 2013, 06:15:47 PM »

Quote from: Hutch on September 16, 2013, 06:03:56 PM

So, any good intel on what sort of firearm the perp used? Just wonder what will be on the top of "must ban" list. Just in case it's not the AR-15 platform.

Nooz is reporting AR15 and handgun of some sort.

This whole thing is odd. How many black mass shooting perpetrators have there been in the last couple decades? Probably count that on one hand. Doesn't fit the bill.

Jamisjockey · « **Reply #39 on:** September 16, 2013, 06:16:29 PM »

OH, and whichever mod moved this to RT....I'm moving it back to Politics.

lupinus · « **Reply #40 on:** September 16, 2013, 06:30:50 PM »

Quote from: jamisjockey on September 16, 2013, 06:16:29 PM

OH, and whichever mod moved this to RT....I'm moving it back to Politics.

MOD FIGHT!!!!!!!!

AZRedhawk44 · « **Reply #41 on:** September 16, 2013, 06:30:59 PM »

Quote from: jamisjockey on September 16, 2013, 06:15:47 PM

Nooz is reporting AR15 and handgun of some sort.

This whole thing is odd. How many black mass shooting perpetrators have there been in the last couple decades? Probably count that on one hand. Doesn't fit the bill.

Black = 13% of the population... so they can be a minority in mass shootings, too. They "should" commit about 1/8th of them. Wasn't Ft. Hood guy black also? Then there's the beltway guys.

As long as you can count all mass shootings in the last couple decades on your fingers and toes, fitting the black ones on one hand fits the strict demographic ratios. Now, including gangland mass shootings will skew that crime stat more towards blacks having more mass shootings, but it depends on if your targets in the mass shootings are middle class working folks, kids in schools, or people living in chicago ghettos.

Boomhauer · « **Reply #42 on:** September 16, 2013, 07:08:23 PM »

Quote from: lupinus on September 16, 2013, 06:30:50 PM

MOD FIGHT!!!!!!!!

CRIPPLE FIGHT!

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #43 on:** September 16, 2013, 07:09:02 PM »

Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on September 16, 2013, 10:44:35 AM

To be fair, this is at a naval yard. .Mil base. There are armed MP's or whatever equivalent the Navy has, but it isn't a school, airport or mall as is typical of these things.

Ya mean like Ft. Hood?

geronimotwo · « **Reply #44 on:** September 16, 2013, 07:11:56 PM »

claiming 12 dead now.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/16/20522196-at-least-12-killed-in-shooting-rampage-at-washington-navy-yard-chief-says?lite

zxcvbob · « **Reply #45 on:** September 16, 2013, 07:26:28 PM »

Quote from: lupinus on September 16, 2013, 06:30:50 PM

MOD FIGHT!!!!!!!!

(I didn't post that out-loud did I?)

roo_ster · « **Reply #46 on:** September 16, 2013, 08:03:41 PM »

Quote from: jamisjockey on September 16, 2013, 06:15:47 PM

Nooz is reporting AR15 and handgun of some sort.

This whole thing is odd. How many black mass shooting perpetrators have there been in the last couple decades? Probably count that on one hand. Doesn't fit the bill.

Black perps account for roughly 2x as many mass and/or serial slayings as their population would indicate. A much smaller proportion relative to the run of the mill murders, where the ratio is much higher.

Scout26 · « **Reply #47 on:** September 16, 2013, 08:16:03 PM »

The good news is that given the race of the perp, this will drop off the radar pretty quick.

slingshot · « **Reply #48 on:** September 16, 2013, 08:47:39 PM »

Quote

Nooz is reporting AR15 and handgun of some sort.

Wonder if he knew that AR was illegal to carry in DC? Handgun carry permit??? Oh, we're talking about criminals.....

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #49 on:** September 16, 2013, 08:58:05 PM »

Has the media found a way to blame it on white, conservative right wingers yet?

News:

Author Topic: Shooting at the DC Navy Yard - 12 shot, 4 of them dead (Read 34083 times)