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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #125 on: October 03, 2014, 04:32:58 PM »
We don't have to get ebola here. It doesn't spread worth crap, but panic does. I'm guessing DC/Metro area just made a run on Trader Joe's. Any random sniffle will be hereafter regarded as the fifth sparkly pony of the apocalypse.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #126 on: October 03, 2014, 05:13:15 PM »
We don't have to get ebola here. It doesn't spread worth crap, but panic does. I'm guessing DC/Metro area just made a run on Trader Joe's. Any random sniffle will be hereafter regarded as the fifth sparkly pony of the apocalypse.

Yup.

Also, this is the worst partisan hack job I have ever seen. Just... astounding. http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/the-nra-making-the-ebola-crisis-worse
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #127 on: October 03, 2014, 05:37:06 PM »
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/texas-hospital-blames-records-flaw-reason-ebola-patient/story?id=25912405

It is all the fault of the hospital's electronic medical record.  The travel history taken by the ER nurse was not seen by the physician.

The hospital said in a statement today that the physician and the nurses followed protocol, but his travel history didn't automatically appear in the physician's standard workflow.

"The documentation of the travel history was located in the nursing workflow portion of the EHR, and was designed to provide a high reliability nursing process to allow for the administration of influenza vaccine under a physician-delegated standing order," read the statement. "As designed, the travel history would not automatically appear in the physician’s standard workflow."

The hospital said it has since relocated the travel history documentation so that it is part of both workflows.

"We have made this change to increase the visibility and documentation of the travel question in order to alert all providers," read the statement. "We feel that this change will improve the early identification of patients who may be at risk for communicable diseases, including Ebola."


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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #128 on: October 03, 2014, 06:06:45 PM »
It is all the fault of the hospital's electronic medical record.  The travel history taken by the ER nurse was not seen by the physician.

Seems to me some things should pop an alert in every screen.  Recent presence in a hot zone would be high on that list.

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #129 on: October 03, 2014, 08:14:48 PM »
How about ACTUALLY TELLING EVERYONE,  YOU KNOW. .. LIKE "VERBALLY"?

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #130 on: October 03, 2014, 08:28:54 PM »
Read today that folks he worked with claim he knew he was sick and thats why he headed to the us. If true thats a game changer or at least should be.


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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #131 on: October 03, 2014, 08:55:13 PM »
Yup.

Also, this is the worst partisan hack job I have ever seen. Just... astounding. http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/the-nra-making-the-ebola-crisis-worse

Wow. But not surprising given the lead author of the article. She is a nutball.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #132 on: October 03, 2014, 09:19:13 PM »
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #133 on: October 03, 2014, 10:06:10 PM »
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #134 on: October 04, 2014, 10:07:00 PM »
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #135 on: October 04, 2014, 10:16:58 PM »


Runoff -> storm drain -> White Rock Creek

About 2mi downstream is where a lot of folks like to fish for carp and catfish too.

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #136 on: October 04, 2014, 10:54:11 PM »
Runoff -> storm drain -> White Rock Creek

About 2mi downstream is where a lot of folks like to fish for carp and catfish too.

and you'd have better odds of winning the powerball over getting Ebola that way.  :facepalm:
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #137 on: October 04, 2014, 11:01:10 PM »
And that was them power washing the whole complex.  4 days later. What's the survival time for a virus? In the sun?
It did get the helicopter crew some zomg cred though


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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #138 on: October 04, 2014, 11:49:48 PM »
Problem with all the focus on this one case is simple- it is one case. I am not impressed with the handling of it.

As of right now, the best survival strategy for any ebola infected African is get themselves into the US by any means possible.

 Whether or not this disease proves to be a flash in the pan or a world wide pandemic remains to be seen- but the possibility is not zero that a catastrophe could occur.
 
 I will wait six months and see- by then, we will know.

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #139 on: October 05, 2014, 12:06:33 AM »
A lot of what I'm reading here sounds like whistling past the grave yard.

Like the Obama administration they are sooo sure.

Strike one just occurred in Texas; multiple breakdowns in the system. Nothing so far that has happened inspires confidence.

I hope the doomsayers are wrong and the Pollyannas are right.

Right now, personally, I'm skeptical and pessimistic.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #140 on: October 05, 2014, 01:51:36 AM »
and you'd have better odds of winning the powerball over getting Ebola that way.  :facepalm:

Yeah the real danger is pressurewasher guy and bystanders getting virus blasted onto them or inhaling it after it aerosolizes from hitting it with a high pressure water jet.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #143 on: October 05, 2014, 02:10:07 AM »
As to the guy in Texas if in fact he came here knowing he was sick I'd favor a quick trial and capital punishment if he makes it.  To discourage the others. Make it less popular an idea. I think of that kinda response as " Chinese style"


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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #144 on: October 05, 2014, 08:55:05 AM »
Yeah the real danger is pressurewasher guy and bystanders getting virus blasted onto them or inhaling it after it aerosolizes from hitting it with a high pressure water jet.

One would hope that the pressure washer had antiviral mixed with the stream, but risk is still pretty low with Ebola. Really not a tough virus outside of bodily fluids, which is a good thing.

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #145 on: October 05, 2014, 09:05:41 AM »
As to the guy in Texas if in fact he came here knowing he was sick I'd favor a quick trial and capital punishment if he makes it.  To discourage the others. Make it less popular an idea. I think of that kinda response as " Chinese style"


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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #146 on: October 05, 2014, 10:14:51 AM »
Charge him full cash price for his medical care. Since he probably doesn't have it, deduct the cash amount from the money we undoubtedly give Liberia in Aid. (We spent in on aiding their citizen after all). Fly him to the Liberian Embassy,  and drop him off with the bill and explanation.

That way the hospital gets paid, it's a zero sum game for the US taxpayers,  and Liberia can decide if this kind of subcontracting is worth the cash cost.

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« Reply #147 on: October 05, 2014, 10:20:33 AM »
I like that though  the precedent is tricky
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #148 on: October 05, 2014, 12:30:25 PM »
The way I see it working out is that since the Liberian gov plans to prosecute him when he gets back he claims racial persecution and Obama gives him political asylum.  :facepalm:
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #149 on: October 05, 2014, 12:39:37 PM »
From the sounds of things all of the talk of sending him back, prosecuting him, etc will bee a moot point in a few days or so. They can send his ashes home though. Which brings up another issue, do we burn them whole or do some sort of body prep, and who will be doing it?

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