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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #175 on: October 08, 2014, 10:12:40 AM »
Looks like their being nursing assistants they had an idea of what was going on and used good practices in protecting themselves.

 
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #176 on: October 08, 2014, 10:17:00 AM »
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Ms Jallah whose contact with Mr Duncan - who remains in a critical condition - was far more intimate and prolonged than that of her husband, told MailOnline on Monday: 'The CDC came yesterday. They said I can go back to work but I do not know what I will do. I will not go back yet.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2782694/Ebola-victim-s-stepdaughter-took-hospital-vomiting-wildly-given-clear-return-work-nursing-assitant.html

She sounds like the only smart person involved.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #177 on: October 08, 2014, 11:18:12 AM »
The Spanish government got a court order to euthanize the Ebola infected nurse's dog. Have there been reported cases in dogs in Africa or anywhere? There doesn't seem to be any indication that the dog is showing symptoms - more of a "scorched Earth" policy.

http://twitchy.com/2014/10/08/summary-ebola-is-really-really-hard-to-catch-but-lets-kill-this-spanish-nurses-dog-just-to-be-safe/

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #178 on: October 08, 2014, 11:32:39 AM »
The Spanish government got a court order to euthanize the Ebola infected nurse's dog. Have there been reported cases in dogs in Africa or anywhere? There doesn't seem to be any indication that the dog is showing symptoms - more of a "scorched Earth" policy.

http://twitchy.com/2014/10/08/summary-ebola-is-really-really-hard-to-catch-but-lets-kill-this-spanish-nurses-dog-just-to-be-safe/

Dogs can carry it without symptoms.

http://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/10/02/ebola-fido/

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #179 on: October 08, 2014, 11:33:51 AM »
Looks like Dallas patient just died.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #180 on: October 08, 2014, 11:38:17 AM »
^^^ Yep, I was just coming to post this. Died at 0751 Dallas time.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #181 on: October 08, 2014, 12:17:28 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/ebola-patient-thomas-eric-duncan-dies-at-dallas-hospital-201613535.html  IN the nooz now.  I hope they plaster that all over the Liberian news papers.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #182 on: October 08, 2014, 03:00:08 PM »
So if Ebola is found in one person in your current city and your boss is requiring you to go to work or lose you job, what will you do?


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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #183 on: October 08, 2014, 03:18:28 PM »
Oh boy. This is not good. I hope they are wrong.

 http://dfw.cbslocal.com/?lead=frisco-patient-exhibiting-ebola-symptoms

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #184 on: October 08, 2014, 03:23:24 PM »
It was essentially impossible there would be no other cases. Until the number is high double or low triple digits, and getting transmitted through casual contact then it's not likely to be a significant problem.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #185 on: October 08, 2014, 03:32:01 PM »
Oh boy. This is not good. I hope they are wrong.

 http://dfw.cbslocal.com/?lead=frisco-patient-exhibiting-ebola-symptoms

Hopefully it's a false alarm


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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #186 on: October 08, 2014, 03:54:33 PM »
Hopefully it's a false alarm


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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #187 on: October 08, 2014, 04:03:09 PM »
Amen to that too. And I am ok with error on the side of caution


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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #188 on: October 08, 2014, 05:28:49 PM »
Oh boy. This is not good. I hope they are wrong.

 http://dfw.cbslocal.com/?lead=frisco-patient-exhibiting-ebola-symptoms

The Apocalypse Masturbators over at ZeroHedge are going nuts.

It was essentially impossible there would be no other cases. Until the number is high double or low triple digits, and getting transmitted through casual contact then it's not likely to be a significant problem.

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #189 on: October 08, 2014, 05:45:37 PM »
Amen to that too. And I am ok with error on the side of caution

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Sgt Monning's son, Logan Monning, told CBS that his father had woken up with 'stomach issues' and had gone to the clinic as a precaution.
Logan said their family had been told that their father was at no risk of the virus, as he had only been in the apartment for 30 minutes and had not come in contact with bodily fluids.

Go into a room where someone has been spewing from both ends for a couple days, and try to stand there for 30 minutes without touching anything their bodily fluids might have gotten on.  Unless you're standing in the middle of the room with your hands in your pockets, it's going to be a bit difficult.  (Don't forget that most people handle their shoes when taking them off or putting them on.)

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #190 on: October 08, 2014, 05:59:58 PM »
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/remains-ebola-victim-thomas-eric-duncan-handled/story?id=26048687

A protocol for handling the body of someone dead from Ebola.  Not that different than handling the body of someone who has died from other particularly virulent diseases.  Some years back, as part of the county emergency planning body, we had a lecture from an official of DMORT, the disaster mortuary people who are part of the Fed response to mass disasters.  The plans they had for handling mass casualties were really interesting, ranging from the conventional funeral home burial/cremation to essentially digging a trench and doing a mass cremation or burial of bodies.  That last one was pretty much reserved for a nuclear war or having to eradicate a widespread animal disease outbreak.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #191 on: October 08, 2014, 09:09:09 PM »
Slight tangent, but some interesting photos and text relating to how people dealt with the Spanish flu:

http://mashable.com/2014/10/08/influenza-epidemic-1918/
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #192 on: October 08, 2014, 09:29:46 PM »
My grandpa was born in 1903. I remember him talking about it and the friends and family that went through it, both the ones that survived and the ones that didn't.  The little country cemetery where most of my family winds up dates to the the 1860s and has quite a few Graves of young people that died in 1918-19 time frame. Several were confirmed to me by older relatives to have died from the Spanish flu.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #193 on: October 08, 2014, 09:31:37 PM »
Oh boy. This is not good. I hope they are wrong.

 http://dfw.cbslocal.com/?lead=frisco-patient-exhibiting-ebola-symptoms

Texas health officials say the deputy is not at risk for ebola:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/08/health/ebola-up-to-speed/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #194 on: October 08, 2014, 09:38:59 PM »
http://claytonecramer.blogspot.com/2014/10/why-i-am-less-fearful-about-ebola-than.html


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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #195 on: October 08, 2014, 10:40:12 PM »
While I have no particular worry about getting Ebola I have less than zero trust of what our government tells me. The stronger and more vehemently the tell me there is nothing to worry about the more concerned I get.

I'm actually a little more concerned about the EV-D68 virus and the "mystery" virus that may or may not be EV-68D that is causing the polio like symptoms. And of course it has nothing to do with the thousands of unscreened  central American illegal I migrant children that were dispersed across the country.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #196 on: October 08, 2014, 10:46:47 PM »
Seriously,  Wtf?

I'm starting to doubt the coincidences happening g around the worldhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/10/06/what-is-marburg-the-ebola-like-virus-that-killed-a-health-care-worker-in-uganda/
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #197 on: October 08, 2014, 10:54:19 PM »
http://claytonecramer.blogspot.com/2014/10/why-i-am-less-fearful-about-ebola-than.html



That made my head hurt reading that blog.

Then I had to go see what this CCR5-delta 32 mutation is, looks like only 4-16% of European dissent people have it, and probably was expressed by the small pox virus, not bubonic plague which is caused by a bacteria. Long story short, if you have that mutation it has a negative effect on T cells which small pox and HIV virus attach to. How I understand it the mutation interferes with those viruses making them unable to bind to the T cells and cause the infection. Infection cause immune system suppression.

Ebola how I understand enters the cell wall, enters the membrane and starts to reproduce. As the virus replicates it releases inflammatory compounds which eventually leads the hemorrhaging if the immune system isn't able to control it. Also has a behavior/chemical that confuses the immune system which is why hemorrhaging happens. Nothing to do with T cells here, so I'm calling BS on the blog posted.


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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #198 on: October 08, 2014, 10:58:09 PM »
Seriously,  Wtf?

I'm starting to doubt the coincidences happening g around the worldhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/10/06/what-is-marburg-the-ebola-like-virus-that-killed-a-health-care-worker-in-uganda/

Malburgvirus and Ebolavirus are like 1st cousins. Both are members of the Filoviridae family along with proposed Cuevavirus genus.

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #199 on: October 08, 2014, 11:03:05 PM »
Ebola how I understand enters the cell wall, enters the membrane and starts to reproduce. As the virus replicates it releases inflammatory compounds which eventually leads the hemorrhaging if the immune system isn't able to control it. Also has a behavior/chemical that confuses the immune system which is why hemorrhaging happens. Nothing to do with T cells here, so I'm calling BS on the blog posted.


So... if you think you got The Obola, you should get good and drunk and stay that way until it has run it's course, so as to suppress your immune response. (reduce inflammation before it leads to hemorrhaging, blood pressure crash, and sepsis)

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