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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #200 on: October 09, 2014, 09:47:08 AM »
That made my head hurt reading that blog.

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #201 on: October 09, 2014, 09:54:10 AM »
So... if you think you got The Obola, you should get good and drunk and stay that way until it has run it's course, so as to suppress your immune response. (reduce inflammation before it leads to hemorrhaging, blood pressure crash, and sepsis)

I'm kinda almost serious.

Dehydration from drinking will probably outweigh the antimicrobial properties of the alcohol, but if you are going to die, why not die drunk and happy?

Actually people will high cholesterol might be a little better off if infected with ebola than the low cholesterol crowd since Ebolavirus uses a cholesterol transporter protein to enter the cell. So don't get drunk, eat lots of bacon!
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #202 on: October 09, 2014, 09:59:21 AM »
Dehydration from drinking will probably outweigh the antimicrobial properties of the alcohol, but if you are going to die, why not die drunk and happy?

Actually people will high cholesterol might be a little better off if infected with ebola than the low cholesterol crowd since Ebolavirus uses a cholesterol transporter protein to enter the cell. So don't get drunk, eat lots of bacon!

I'll do both just to cover all hte bases.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #203 on: October 09, 2014, 10:01:15 AM »
I'll do both just to cover all hte bases.

Alcohol in moderation can help with high cholesterol, so toss moderation out the window.  :rofl:

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #204 on: October 09, 2014, 10:03:03 AM »
I think I'll have a bacon/vodka fest this weekend- just as a prophylactic measure.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #205 on: October 09, 2014, 10:08:04 AM »
I think I'll have a bacon/vodka fest this weekend- just as a prophylactic measure.

Consume enough of either and they'll work as a prophylactic, sure enough.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #206 on: October 09, 2014, 10:26:10 AM »
I think I'll have a bacon/vodka fest this weekend- just as a prophylactic measure.

Betty Crocker to the rescue!

http://www.bettycrocker.com/recipes/smoky-bacon-bloody-mary/d4817f08-6591-439f-b5f9-bf779a0c8d8e
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #207 on: October 09, 2014, 11:04:25 AM »
^^^That looks pretty good.  I have seen, but never bought, the bacon flavored vodka, but maybe I should give it a try.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #209 on: October 09, 2014, 11:15:11 PM »
Except for the cop being cleared today


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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #210 on: October 09, 2014, 11:26:08 PM »
And a pretty good explanation of why we didn't shut down for Marburg or ebola
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/09/cdc-chief-why-dont-support-travel-ban-to-combat-ebola-outbreak/




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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #211 on: October 09, 2014, 11:44:59 PM »
And a pretty good explanation of why we didn't shut down for Marburg or ebola
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/09/cdc-chief-why-dont-support-travel-ban-to-combat-ebola-outbreak/


Much of his explanation is good for the roses.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #212 on: October 09, 2014, 11:54:42 PM »
Specifically?


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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #213 on: October 10, 2014, 06:36:48 AM »
Frieden's explanation is illogical and non-sensical. He's proving the CDC to be a clown shoes operation.

'We can't isolate Africa because it would mean ebola will be an epidemic there for years.'

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #214 on: October 10, 2014, 08:58:52 AM »
So what would you implement and how? Bear in mind there are no direct flights from there to here.
And what do you foresee in the way of results/consequences?


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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #215 on: October 10, 2014, 09:54:50 AM »
So what would you implement and how? Bear in mind there are no direct flights from there to here.
And what do you foresee in the way of results/consequences?


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Doesn't matter.  Anyone traveling directly from the hotzones would not have cleared customs at the airport in whatever country. 
Results?  Preventing a panic.  Notice I didn't say pandemic.  Consequences? None.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #216 on: October 10, 2014, 10:17:50 AM »
How would you propose instituting your controls in those other countries?
And no consequences? Hardly

Here's what the guy from that liberal heritage foundation says
http://townhall.com/columnists/markdavis/2014/10/10/another-ebola-risk-it-eats-logic-n1903406?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook


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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #217 on: October 10, 2014, 10:39:46 AM »
Not sure I give two toots about the economies of West African nations.  And what about our economy when there's a few dozen cases?  You don't think the 24 hour news cycle will send our economy into the shitter over that?
And just because it isn't a guarantee of stopping someone from making it through, you figure why not just let them all come?  Flights to the US are screened separately.  If your exit stamp is from a country considered "hot", you should be barred entry.  It's not rocket science.  No, it's not perfect.
What happens when more people who know they are exposed or even infected start coming because they think they'll get better health care?
Maybe we can just get the police to shoot them?
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #218 on: October 10, 2014, 11:05:17 AM »
Not sure I give two toots about the economies of West African nations.  And what about our economy when there's a few dozen cases?  You don't think the 24 hour news cycle will send our economy into the shitter over that?
And just because it isn't a guarantee of stopping someone from making it through, you figure why not just let them all come?  Flights to the US are screened separately.  If your exit stamp is from a country considered "hot", you should be barred entry.  It's not rocket science.  No, it's not perfect.
What happens when more people who know they are exposed or even infected start coming because they think they'll get better health care?
Maybe we can just get the police to shoot them?

All this, with bells on it. 

I just love the "Since you can't guarantee 100% effectiveness we shouldn't do anything about it" attitude expressed by the CDC's Chief of Coprolalia.  Heck, since the effectiveness of iodine and alcohol swabs at injection sites is not 100% effective on killing surface microbes, let us forgo that, as well.  Hand washing?  Not 100% effective, so to do so is counterproductive.  Vaccination?  Not 100% effective, so let us stop that, too.

We owe W African countries squat.  The economic impact of barring all their nationals entry to the USA would rival a tack hammer made of cartilage.  Which is what I would do:
1. Bar entry to the USA all citizens of those countries.
2. Bar entry to the USA all those who visit those countries.  Merchant shipmen get to spend a week floating along hte American coat, since it takes ~2 weeks to sail from Lagos to Houston.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #219 on: October 10, 2014, 12:56:37 PM »
My wife's grandmother spent a month in quarantine at Ellis Island. Measles. With her two children. Grandfather came here and worked for 5 years to save up enough money to pay their passage.
 We used to have strict immigration requirements for health. What changed besides political correctness? Is it the volume? Too many, so we don't do anything?
 We are talking here about a natural epidemic. (I hope). What the hell are we going to do about a bio attack? Some guy with a vial of smallpox up his butt?
 I think we are ruled by bozo's who simply do not have a clue about anything. They don't have any ideas except regurgitating their PC college talking points- they have never actually had to THINK and SOLVE any problem with real life consequences save for manipulating others viewpoints. Their sole meter of success is political opportunity.
 I am reminded of the sort of commanders who rise to prominence during peacetime, only to be found utterly incompetent under combat conditions. 

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #220 on: October 10, 2014, 01:41:03 PM »
My wife's grandmother spent a month in quarantine at Ellis Island. Measles. With her two children. Grandfather came here and worked for 5 years to save up enough money to pay their passage.
 We used to have strict immigration requirements for health. What changed besides political correctness? Is it the volume? Too many, so we don't do anything?
 We are talking here about a natural epidemic. (I hope). What the hell are we going to do about a bio attack? Some guy with a vial of smallpox up his butt?
 I think we are ruled by bozo's who simply do not have a clue about anything. They don't have any ideas except regurgitating their PC college talking points- they have never actually had to THINK and SOLVE any problem with real life consequences save for manipulating others viewpoints. Their sole meter of success is political opportunity.
 I am reminded of the sort of commanders who rise to prominence during peacetime, only to be found utterly incompetent under combat conditions.  

You attribute to incompetence what, at this point, ought to be ascribed to malevolence.

What will happen if it is Americans are on the receiving end of bioterror is quarantine at the point of a gun, with the shooter riding a milsurp MRAP.  *expletive deleted* ck you if your kid is stuck at Chomo Elementary.

We have see this all before:

1. Arab muslim terrorists bring down 3 planes and hit the WTC and Pentagon.  Increased scrutiny of Arabs & muslims? Restriction on travel from the country where most of them hailed?  Nope.  Restrictions on Americans.  TSA.  Sexual assault of American children at the hands of gov't.  Forcing non-ambulatory elderly folk out of their wheelchairs and adult diapers.

2. Fed.gov wants to track terrorist commo.  Does the TSA and Co focus on Arabs & muslims?  Nope.  Hoover up the commo of every American.

3. Improvised bomb at the Boston Marathon.  Rally the citizenry to look for the dudes?  Nope.  Confine the inhabitants of hte city to their houses and patrol like it is Fallujah on the Charles, sweeping one and all with their tacticool-guy weaponry.

Given the choice to inconvenience foreigners or hack at the roots of American liberty, our gov't will break out the felling axe.

Every.  Damned.  Time.  
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #221 on: October 12, 2014, 12:51:25 AM »
Because - time and time again - the political system is dumber than its constituent parts.

Remember that - for example -the Patriot Act had been compose of proposals written years before 9/11 was even a glimmer in Osama's eye.

These people believe that there is only one response to any kind of attacks, disasters, monstrous tragedies - reduce liberty.

They just haul out pre-recorded recipes and apply them.

The manual says that reply to any kind of hazard is a lockdown.

Ergo, if a stranger is reported... being suspicious within 500 yards of a school, lockdown the school for 8 hours.

If a 10-year-old is seen riding the subway alone, stop the train - even if he has a phone and you can call his family to make sure they aware aware of his location.

Children will walk to school under escort, like convoyed prisoners.

Every person will be monitored, and encouraged to spy on his fellow citizens.

Moreover, even if "profiling" is legitimized, it will not happen instead of this nonsense, but on top of it.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #222 on: October 12, 2014, 06:33:02 AM »
Number two in Dallas. Is this the first case of transmission in the US?

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/10/12/health-care-worker-at-dallas-hospital-tests-positive-for-ebola/

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #223 on: October 12, 2014, 08:33:26 AM »
And the POS family members are suing Presby for taking care of their worthless sack of a relative. Don't really care if now if they DIAF wherever they may currently reside.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #224 on: October 12, 2014, 09:37:49 AM »
Number two in Dallas. Is this the first case of transmission in the US?

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/10/12/health-care-worker-at-dallas-hospital-tests-positive-for-ebola/

But but...first world containment procedures!  =D

I find it interesting that a health care worker contracts ebola but the dude pressure washing the sidewalk, the folks living in the apartment for a few days with Duncan and with his trash after that, and the ems folks who transported him to the hospital managed to not get it. I wonder what this health care workers job was.
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