Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US

[KD5NRH]

One thing he didn't expound on that I have read recently is the danger that ebola will find a suitable host species in North America. We have all kinds of bats in this country, for example.

That quarantine is part of making sure we don't have it spread to a "reservoir" in this country like it is in Africa (and all the way to Bangladesh, according to that article.)

Exactly.  And the enviroweenies would never let us decimate an animal population intentionally to clear such a problem...at least not until it reached the point where we would actually have to try for total extinction of a species.

[Scout26]

We, sadly, may not have to worry about bats becoming a Ebola vector.   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nose_syndrome

[French G.]

The bat vector thing is pretty far-fetched. We'd have to somehow infect bats, then eat something that got infected by eating infected bats since unlike West Africa I'm pretty sure that we don't consider bats tasty.


More worried about the barking moonbat vectors. What exactly is to be gained by the aggressive behavior of nurse Hickox? You'd think health workers would set the example and quarantine themselves.

[makattak]

The bat vector thing is pretty far-fetched. We'd have to somehow infect bats, then eat something that got infected by eating infected bats since unlike West Africa I'm pretty sure that we don't consider bats tasty.

Bats were an example. As the virus IS NOT prevalent on the North American continent, we can't know what animals it might infect.

For a scarier (but less likely) example: what if it took a liking to the white-tailed deer? Or bears? Or Coyotes? (As I recall, dogs can be carriers, but are unaffected by the virus.)

[makattak]

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/10/29/new-york-city-doctor-with-ebola-reportedly-lied-about-his-movements-in-city/

Oh, hey. Medical professional initially lied about his actions while symptomatic.

That's sure going to instill confidence.

[roo_ster]

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/197434/

OUR BRAVE “PUBLIC HEALTH” PEOPLE SEEM KINDA SELFISH: Ebola Nurse In Maine Says She Won’t Follow Home Quarantine Rules. Really setting an example there, honey.

Or maybe she’s just following this example: Report: ‘Hero’ Ebola doctor lied to the NYPD; Said he’d ‘self quarantined.’ Putz.

Funny, the public health crowd loves telling others what to do, but doesn’t seem so big on following instructions itself. This does not inspire confidence, and will make it much harder to get ordinary Americans to comply with public health measures in the future.

Meanwhile, such behavior just strengthens the case for mandatory quarantines for everyone entering the country from Ebola areas. We obviously can’t trust their professionalism and willingness to engage in self-sacrifice — at least, unless they’re from Tennessee.

[KD5NRH]

For a scarier (but less likely) example: what if it took a liking to the white-tailed deer? Or bears? Or Coyotes? (As I recall, dogs can be carriers, but are unaffected by the virus.)

How long can it live in a mosquito or tick's belly?  Doesn't have to be able to affect an insect if it's being carried by blood transfusions.  Also raises the question of whether direct blood transfer like that could transmit it earlier than onset of symptoms.

That would also raise the possibility of an insect vector between humans and a reservoir species that we otherwise don't contact in ways conducive to transmission.

[Hawkmoon]

Here's why we shouldn't even allow people to travel from affected countries to the U.S. until they have gone through a 21-day quarantine over there:

http://www.newser.com/story/197882/nurse-wont-obey-maine-quarantine.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=united&utm_campaign=rss_topnews

Nurse Kaci Hickox has gone from forced quarantine in New Jersey to "voluntary" quarantine in Maine—but it may not be voluntary for long. Her lawyer tells the Bangor Daily News that she agreed not to go out in public for two days, but "she doesn't want to agree to continue to be confined to a residence beyond the two days."

So here's yet another supposedly trained health care professional who either doesn't understand the fundamental principal of "quarantine," or who joins the growing army of people who simply don't think rules should apply to them. My vote would be to put her on a private charter plane and send her back over to Africa.

[zxcvbob]

Here's the sort of tripe medical professionals are writing: http://time.com/3546125/ebola-quarantine-chris-christie-kaci-hickox/

If he tried really hard, he might could have squeezed in a few more drippy emotional-baggage words.  (I get it that he doesn't like Christie, but that's no excuse)

[Scout26]

So self monitoring and self- quarantine includes going out to dinner, trapesing around NYC on the Subway, going for a run, and then to a bowling alley?

I pray that no one gets Ebola from this *expletive deleted*tard who ABSOLUTELY KNOWS BETTER.   

But if they want to stop a panic and the possible spread of the disease, then they need to quarantine folks.   You don't like it, tough *expletive deleted*it.  Public Health policy.   

If she wants to sue, and I'm the state's attorney, I'd let EVERY judge know that I will put her on the witness stand, RIGHT NEXT TO YOU. 

Your move. 

[Balog]

Bats were an example. As the virus IS NOT prevalent on the North American continent, we can't know what animals it might infect.

For a scarier (but less likely) example: what if it took a liking to the white-tailed deer? Or bears? Or Coyotes? (As I recall, dogs can be carriers, but are unaffected by the virus.)

Let me know when a symptomatic ebola patient gets eaten by a bear, then I'll worry about that. Pretty sure far fetched is about the right description.

[Balog]

As a former USAMRIID guy I read says, voluntary quarantines are a joke. I'm not terribly worried about ebola unless something changes, but that nurse and that doctor should be under house arrest with shoot on sight orders for if they try to sneak out. Quarantine of infectious disease has always been one of the most useful and legitimate things a .gov can do.

[Scout26]

...unless you want to do an amnesty for all the illegal aliens after the election... 

[makattak]

Let me know when a symptomatic ebola patient gets eaten by a bear, then I'll worry about that. Pretty sure far fetched is about the right description.

Or maybe just bitten by a coyote while on a jog. Or intercepted by an insect vector not known in Africa. Or maybe throws up on some plants while out jogging eaten soon after by a deer.

IF we had quarantines going, the above (except maybe the insect vector) would not be at all likely.  Ebola doc and Typhoid Hicox are proving these may be valid concerns.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

The Associated Press writes:

"Police were monitoring her movements and public interactions but couldn't detain her without a court order signed by a judge.
"Hickox contends there's no need for quarantine because she's showing no symptoms. She's also tested negative for the deadly disease.
" 'I really hope that we can work things out amicably and continue to negotiate,' she said Thursday morning while riding on a dirt trail."
After returning to the U.S. over the weekend, she blasted New Jersey officials for confining her. When they discharged her earlier this week, she returned to Maine, where she was asked to self-quarantine.

In television interviews Wednesday, she vowed not to stick to guidelines.

In a statement on Thursday, the president of the American Nurses Association, Pamela Cipriano, defended Hickox, saying that "based on the best available scientific evidence" she "poses no public threat" and should not be confined to her home.

"ANA supports a policy of appropriate monitoring for health care workers who have cared for or been in contact with patients with Ebola. Those who are not exhibiting symptoms of illness consistent with Ebola do not require quarantine," Cipriano said.


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[Hawkmoon]

Here's the sort of tripe medical professionals are writing: http://time.com/3546125/ebola-quarantine-chris-christie-kaci-hickox/

He's not a medical professional -- he's a Ph.D. not an M.D. His field is medical ethics, not medicine. I think his thesis should be reviewed.

[Boomhauer]

The Associated Press writes:

"Police were monitoring her movements and public interactions but couldn't detain her without a court order signed by a judge.
"Hickox contends there's no need for quarantine because she's showing no symptoms. She's also tested negative for the deadly disease.
" 'I really hope that we can work things out amicably and continue to negotiate,' she said Thursday morning while riding on a dirt trail."
After returning to the U.S. over the weekend, she blasted New Jersey officials for confining her. When they discharged her earlier this week, she returned to Maine, where she was asked to self-quarantine.

In television interviews Wednesday, she vowed not to stick to guidelines.

In a statement on Thursday, the president of the American Nurses Association, Pamela Cipriano, defended Hickox, saying that "based on the best available scientific evidence" she "poses no public threat" and should not be confined to her home.

"ANA supports a policy of appropriate monitoring for health care workers who have cared for or been in contact with patients with Ebola. Those who are not exhibiting symptoms of illness consistent with Ebola do not require quarantine," Cipriano said.


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I don't give a *expletive deleted*ck how special of a snowflake she thinks she is, that *expletive deleted*ing idiot needs to be forcibly quarantined.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Those pesky laws get in the way .  They need a court order . Haven't got one


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[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Governor of Maine seems to have figured it out too
http://www.pressherald.com/2014/10/30/kaci-hickox-and-boyfriend-leave-home-on-bikes/


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[MillCreek]

Nurse Hickox seems to be the healthcare equivalent of Open Carry Texas at Chipotle.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

She cause anyone else to bar something?


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[Scout26]

Meanwhile, we have double standards for those animals that are less equal then others....

http://www.thelocal.it/20141029/us-soldiers-ebola-quarantine-in-italy-sparks-alarm

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Wasn't that the military brass that made the call?


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[Sergeant Bob]

For a scarier (but less likely) example: what if it took a liking to the white-tailed deer?

Actually, here in Michigun, much of the deer population has been affected by Epizootic Hemorrhagic Disease (my brother from another mother) called it "deer ebola". The say it can't affect humans but, what if they are wrong? 

[Scout26]

Seems even libprogs agree, quarantines are legal.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/28/are-mandatory-ebola-quarantines-legal.html