Author Topic: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US (Read 146326 times)

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #575 on:** October 30, 2014, 11:57:40 PM »

All that matter is can they get a judge to sign their order.
Shes already made 2governors her $)(;

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RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #576 on:** October 31, 2014, 04:35:14 AM »

I don't wish the woman any ill will but I'd laugh my ass off if she came down with Ebola.

wmenorr67 · « **Reply #577 on:** October 31, 2014, 06:53:05 AM »

I like how the President states that if we force these people to be quarantined they won't go help. But they aren't being forced to go help so if you want to help step up and play nice for 21 days.

I mean the President is ordering as of now I believe 4000 troops to the region and they will be forced to be quarantined for the 21 days. I know damn well that more than not of those troops want to go.

vaskidmark · « **Reply #578 on:** October 31, 2014, 08:04:35 AM »

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Ouch!

I'm still not sure where I stand on this specific case but fanning the flames of casual airborne contamination? Mabe "just a bit" too much.

stay safe.

Ben · « **Reply #579 on:** October 31, 2014, 10:44:08 AM »

I don't have the medical knowledge to make an informed statement on if making her stay in a quarantine facility was right or wrong. However, refusing to "stay at home for 21 days and we'll pay you to do it"? Sorry, at this point she's just an ass who wants fifteen minutes.

SADShooter · « **Reply #580 on:** October 31, 2014, 10:50:14 AM »

Quote from: Ben on October 31, 2014, 10:44:08 AM

I don't have the medical knowledge to make an informed statement on if making her stay in a quarantine facility was right or wrong. However, refusing to "stay at home for 21 days and we'll pay you to do it"? Sorry, at this point she's just an ass who wants fifteen minutes.

And in the state of our society, this makes anything voluntary akin to Ebola roulette. We've reached the point where individual narcissism is a foil to public health policy.

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #581 on:** October 31, 2014, 11:29:35 AM »

Interesting . She's stayed away from other folks at home. What has she actually done other than make 2 governors back off and obey the law? If you were bitching about the doctor you might have a case but oddly the nurse seems to generate more butt hurt

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Ron · « **Reply #582 on:** October 31, 2014, 11:31:56 AM »

So what if she is in a collision with a car while riding her bike during this period and let us say there is blood?

If she is infected she is then putting at risk any first responders and good Samaritans who may be exposed to her blood.

Unlikely? Yes

Impossible? No

MillCreek · « **Reply #583 on:** October 31, 2014, 12:28:03 PM »

Quote from: Ben on October 31, 2014, 10:44:08 AM

I don't have the medical knowledge to make an informed statement on if making her stay in a quarantine facility was right or wrong. However, refusing to "stay at home for 21 days and we'll pay you to do it"? Sorry, at this point she's just an ass who wants fifteen minutes.

Or is she a staunch libertarian fighting against illogical governmental restrictions, and is doing so by confrontation and pushing the envelope while remaining within the boundaries of the law? Again, kind of like Open Carry Texas carrying their Tapco ARs into Chipotle?

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #584 on:** October 31, 2014, 12:47:58 PM »

Or like the folks who TALK about doing something about the tsa

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cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #585 on:** October 31, 2014, 01:40:52 PM »

And the judge says
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/31/kaci-hickox-wins--judge-rejects-ebola-quarantine/

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Balog · « **Reply #586 on:** October 31, 2014, 01:49:58 PM »

Quote from: MillCreek on October 31, 2014, 12:28:03 PM

Or is she a staunch libertarian fighting against illogical governmental restrictions, and is doing so by confrontation and pushing the envelope while remaining within the boundaries of the law? Again, kind of like Open Carry Texas carrying their Tapco ARs into Chipotle?

I'm surprised you'd think quarantines are illogical .gov restrictions.

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #587 on:** October 31, 2014, 01:51:56 PM »

She has due process and used it. Not to be confused with talking about using it, someday, maybe

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MillCreek · « **Reply #588 on:** October 31, 2014, 01:54:22 PM »

Quote from: Balog on October 31, 2014, 01:49:58 PM

I'm surprised you'd think quarantines are illogical .gov restrictions.

I do not, if they are supported by objective clinical criteria based upon the best available knowledge at the time. This mishmash of criteria used by differing jurisdictions for this event do not seem to have such a basis.

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #589 on:** October 31, 2014, 02:06:17 PM »

You see how folks in the uk are reacting? It's embarrassing

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tokugawa · « **Reply #590 on:** October 31, 2014, 02:22:27 PM »

Apparently Hickox is a CDC employee.

http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2014/10/oopsie-pres-obolas-sticky-fingerprints.html

So they don't want immigration controls, they don't want quarantine, they send the 101'st into an Ebola zone, and now want to bring Ebola patients into the US for treatment, and still have no idea how nurse Pham got infected.

Any one of these is dumb. Together, it almost sounds like they want Ebola here, with some sort of excuse to fall back on like it was an "unexpected" tragic event no one could have foreseen..

When stupidity goes exponential, it is indistinguishable from malice.

TechMan · « **Reply #591 on:** October 31, 2014, 04:01:03 PM »

tokugawa · « **Reply #592 on:** October 31, 2014, 04:29:51 PM »

And now the Maine CDC reports Hickox's roommate had Ebola.

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #593 on:** October 31, 2014, 04:43:54 PM »

And?
“The respondents roommate in Africa became infected without knowing how she became infected with Ebola. (Any potential risk to respondent from that incident has passed).” This is one of 35 points Pinette made while filing a verified petition for public health order yesterday with the state.

Doggy Daddy · « **Reply #594 on:** October 31, 2014, 05:04:26 PM »

Quote from: wmenorr67 on October 31, 2014, 06:53:05 AM

I like how the President states that if we force these people to be quarantined they won't go help. But they aren't being forced to go help so if you want to help step up and play nice for 21 days.

I mean the President is ordering as of now I believe 4000 troops to the region and they will be forced to be quarantined for the 21 days. I know damn well that more than not of those troops want to go.

IANAE, but if a large group of people are all possibly exposed at roughly the same time, then all quarantined together, don't the odds say that at least one of those people were exposed and the close proximity to others because of the quarantine makes it easier for all to catch it? Is this a government anti-military conspiracy? (this is only partially tongue-in-cheek. )

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Hawkmoon · « **Reply #595 on:** October 31, 2014, 05:16:53 PM »

Quote from: Ben on October 31, 2014, 10:44:08 AM

I don't have the medical knowledge to make an informed statement on if making her stay in a quarantine facility was right or wrong. However, refusing to "stay at home for 21 days and we'll pay you to do it"? Sorry, at this point she's just an ass who wants fifteen minutes.

Her boyfriend said in an interview that they aren't seeking to push any limits.

What a dweeb. She's not doing anything BUT push the limits. That town in Maine is a small, close-knit community of only 4000 people. And it's not part of a larger "greater metropolitan area," unless trees count as metropolitan. She's receiving death threats from her neighbors, which is very unMaine-like. That should be her first clue.

But ... "there are none so blind as those who will not see." Clues are wasted on the clueless.

KD5NRH · « **Reply #596 on:** October 31, 2014, 05:44:02 PM »

Quote from: Doggy Daddy on October 31, 2014, 05:04:26 PM

IANAE, but if a large group of people are all possibly exposed at roughly the same time, then all quarantined together, don't the odds say that at least one of those people were exposed and the close proximity to others because of the quarantine makes it easier for all to catch it?

Ya think?

I have to wonder how many of the Ebola patients over there started out with something much tamer like Lassa or even a simple rhinovirus, but got dumped into the quarantine camp based on a cough and fever. Being immune compromised already, it's pretty much a safe bet that they all have Ebola after a few days sharing a tent and facilities with the ones who are already spewing from both ends.

Boomhauer · « **Reply #597 on:** October 31, 2014, 07:38:36 PM »

Let me break it the *expletive deleted* ck down. Despite the insistence of certain folk on the internet and the incompetent CDC, Ebola is spread too easily for my comfort plus it's still a rather deadly disease. Ms. Special Snowflake and those of similar mindset are risking the health of others because they are attention whores and self-righteous idiots. Quarantine their dumb asses.

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #598 on:** October 31, 2014, 08:07:47 PM »

Your comfort over the rule of law? How's that work? I think it's hilarious watching the same folk who think tsa is de debil are so willing to lean the other way here.
Wasn't there some noise about not sacrificing liberty for safety?
Heck they killed 3000 folks with planes we are still at 0 dead Americans

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Jamisjockey · « **Reply #599 on:** October 31, 2014, 08:25:27 PM »

Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on October 31, 2014, 08:07:47 PM

Your comfort over the rule of law? How's that work? I think it's hilarious watching the same folk who think tsa is de debil are so willing to lean the other way here.
Wasn't there some noise about not sacrificing liberty for safety?
Heck they killed 3000 folks with planes we are still at 0 dead Americans

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No less ironic than you arguing against more statism....

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