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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #625 on: November 03, 2014, 01:09:47 PM »
What part am I supposed to be unhappy about?  The mandatory quarantines?

I'm getting practically giddy over the thought of walling off and quarantining LA County, Cook County, Travis County, etc.

But only if we cut communications until it can be absolutely proven to my satisfaction that Ebola cannot possibly mutate in such a manner as to allow electronic transmission.

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #626 on: November 03, 2014, 01:19:07 PM »
I'm getting practically giddy over the thought of walling off and quarantining LA County, Cook County, Travis County, etc.

But only if we cut communications until it can be absolutely proven to my satisfaction that Ebola cannot possibly mutate in such a manner as to allow electronic transmission.

Especially if "communications" is in the military sense: movement, logistics, etc.  Twenty-one days of suspended communications in or out of such places would have quite the salutary effect.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #627 on: November 03, 2014, 01:30:46 PM »
I'm going out on a limb to suggest that the typical virus/bacterium has precious little regard for civil liberty as framed in the progression of Western thought on the human condition. I am as rock-ribbed a libertarian as any, in the context of how people should treat other people. Want to argue that a political overreaction shouldn't contravene "settled science"? Knock yourself out. The fact that we have been fortunate in this instance doesn't mean it will ever be so. Our reactions to those future die rolls should not be predicated on one lucky seven.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #628 on: November 03, 2014, 05:27:57 PM »
Why is it that when the .gov wants to stick it to us, they ignore all constitutional limitations "out of an abundance of caution" but, when they want to advance their agenda, anyone else espousing caution is dismissed as a panic-stricken wacko?
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #629 on: November 03, 2014, 05:29:29 PM »
That's a rhetorical question, right?   ;/
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #630 on: November 04, 2014, 10:19:47 AM »
http://online.wsj.com/articles/for-ebola-survivors-sex-carries-added-risk-1415061018

An article describing an anecdotal case of possible Ebola transmission through sexual contact.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #631 on: November 04, 2014, 12:13:27 PM »
http://online.wsj.com/articles/for-ebola-survivors-sex-carries-added-risk-1415061018

An article describing an anecdotal case of possible Ebola transmission through sexual contact.

WSJ is asking me to subscribe to get the full story, but here is another story on it.

First case I've heard of a woman recovered from Ebola possibly passing it on sexually, but I've heard it can hang out in seminal fluid for as long as seven weeks.

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #632 on: November 04, 2014, 04:11:19 PM »
http://online.wsj.com/articles/for-ebola-survivors-sex-carries-added-risk-1415061018

An article describing an anecdotal case of possible Ebola transmission through sexual contact.

Can't read the story without logging in. Summary?
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #633 on: November 04, 2014, 04:13:31 PM »
WSJ is asking me to subscribe to get the full story, but here is another story on it.

That one wants me to subscribe, too.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #634 on: November 11, 2014, 12:25:41 AM »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/as-ebola-declines-in-liberia-health-officials-reassess-response-plans/2014/11/03/88126a4c-6365-11e4-bb14-4cfea1e742d5_story.html

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MONROVIA, Liberia — The rate of new Ebola infections here has declined so sharply in recent weeks that even some of the busiest treatment facilities are now only half-full and officials are reassessing the scale of the response needed to quell the epidemic.

Ebola is losing, and the US Army hasn't even deployed yet.
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« Reply #636 on: November 11, 2014, 01:43:42 AM »
Has ever gotten worse?
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« Reply #637 on: November 11, 2014, 07:10:53 AM »
Has ever gotten worse?

It's just moving on to more fertile ground.  After killing off everyone it could and being left with folks who have some level of immunity, it wised up and shifted locations.

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It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #639 on: November 11, 2014, 05:43:44 PM »
And a sad but true
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #640 on: November 12, 2014, 11:25:04 AM »
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/12/duncans-family-reaches-resolution-with-hospital/18898847/

So the hospital, after providing hundreds of thousands of dollars (my estimate) in care to a patient and not getting paid for it (Mr. Duncan had no insurance, was not eligible for the ACA and the Liberian Embassy refused to pay the bill), now has the privilege of having to pay a substantial malpractice settlement to boot.  I bet the hospital leadership curses the day Mr. Duncan walked into the Emergency Department.  All that money has to come from somewhere, so remember this when you get your next medical bill.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #641 on: November 12, 2014, 11:37:26 AM »
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/12/duncans-family-reaches-resolution-with-hospital/18898847/

So the hospital, after providing hundreds of thousands of dollars (my estimate) in care to a patient and not getting paid for it (Mr. Duncan had no insurance, was not eligible for the ACA and the Liberian Embassy refused to pay the bill), now has the privilege of having to pay a substantial malpractice settlement to boot.  I bet the hospital leadership curses the day Mr. Duncan walked into the Emergency Department.  All that money has to come from somewhere, so remember this when you get your next medical bill.

Pile on the lost revenue from paying patients and potential insurance payments who went elsewhere during the media blitz, and the hole is even larger.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #642 on: November 12, 2014, 12:12:18 PM »
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/12/duncans-family-reaches-resolution-with-hospital/18898847/

So the hospital, after providing hundreds of thousands of dollars (my estimate) in care to a patient and not getting paid for it (Mr. Duncan had no insurance, was not eligible for the ACA and the Liberian Embassy refused to pay the bill), now has the privilege of having to pay a substantial malpractice settlement to boot.  I bet the hospital leadership curses the day Mr. Duncan walked into the Emergency Department.  All that money has to come from somewhere, so remember this when you get your next medical bill.

These looters deserve the firing squad. THEY knew he had Ebola and are now PROFITING from it!?

This is exactly the kind of crap that makes people hate lawyers with a white-hot passion.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #643 on: November 13, 2014, 10:17:12 AM »
These looters deserve the firing squad. THEY knew he had Ebola and are now PROFITING from it!?

This is exactly the kind of crap that makes people hate lawyers and both domestic and foreign-born members of the FSA with a white-hot passion.

Tile crawlers generally need a turd to latch on to.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #644 on: November 13, 2014, 10:33:25 AM »
Tile crawlers generally need a turd to latch on to.

Word. You don't get flies without a malodorous pile of waste.
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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #645 on: November 13, 2014, 12:43:13 PM »
Millcreek, maybe you can weigh in here- on the rumor that the hospital Duncan was in is near empty?

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #646 on: November 13, 2014, 02:09:49 PM »
They had quite a few workers under observation. How many folks would a place like that employ? Could they handle losing 150 plus employees for 21 days?


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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #647 on: November 13, 2014, 02:58:30 PM »
What I heard was that the patient census was way down.

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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #648 on: November 13, 2014, 03:02:46 PM »
I read that too


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Re: Ebola: first case has been confirmed in the US
« Reply #649 on: November 13, 2014, 03:24:14 PM »
Millcreek, maybe you can weigh in here- on the rumor that the hospital Duncan was in is near empty?

It was, but it has since largely recovered to the typical pre-Duncan levels, but that hospital has not been doing so hot for a while now.  A hospital of that size (almost 900 beds) probably has around 5000 employees.
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