So what's everone paying for gasoline?

[bedlamite]

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[MechAg94]

[Jim147]

Is there a gas shortage in Portlan?

[MechAg94]

Is there a gas shortage in Portlan?

Don't know, but Mrgunsngear (posted it on instagram) declared the KS47 the official gas station security gun.

[MechAg94]

https://www.firehouse.com/operations-training/news/21222794/fl-hummer-catches-fire-after-driver-fills-up-several-gas-cans
Citrus County firefighters put out a burning Hummer H2 that caught fire soon after the driver had filled up four 5-gallon gas cans at a Homosassa station.


Looking at the embedded video, do you think the fire started at the gas cans?  I would have thought they would be burned up.  Maybe they put it out pretty fast.

[RocketMan]

Looking at the picture, my first thought is a fire starting in the engine compartment.

[K Frame]

Just got gas at a station near my house. It was out this morning, but this afternoon when I passed there was a tanker there.

Line wasn't bad, but the damned pumps were trickling fuel. Took me nearly 10 minutes to get 10 gallons.

People were doing some stupid *expletive deleted*it, too. One idiot was filling a bunch of individual disposable water bottles, no bigger than 1 quart. He was mostly managing to spill gas everywhere.

I'm really shocked that I've not seen someone shoving the nozzle up their ass to colon a few quarts home.

[MechAg94]

Dang, at least have the presence of mind to go buy some 1 gallon water jugs and use those.

They probably also thought they fill them all the way up.  I don't do that with 5 gallon cans.

[Boomhauer]

We had a local POS in a car with stolen plates get or steal gas in containers in her trunk and the cops tried to pull her over after getting a hit on the plates and she chose to run until she crashed and burned. Being a cockroach of society she’s still alive in a burn center being paid for by us taxpayers of course.

[BlueStarLizzard]

I overheard a woman at PT that was talking about how the line to an empty gas station was blocking the tanker from getting in. 

[K Frame]

I think I figured out why the pumps were trickling gasoline last night...

I bet the station slowed the pumps down so that people filling unapproved containers like water bottles wouldn't be spraying gas all over themselves, their cars, the ground, the pumps when they tried to fill them.

[RocketMan]

I think I figured out why the pumps were trickling gasoline last night...

I bet the station slowed the pumps down so that people filling unapproved containers like water bottles wouldn't be spraying gas all over themselves, their cars, the ground, the pumps when they tried to fill them.

When the underground tanks are low on gas, the pumps slow down.  I've seen that many times.  Don't ask me why they slow as I have no idea.  Someone else on here may have the answer.

[cordex]

Probably reduces the air they suck up with the gas.

Lots of the internet sources for quality gas cans have been hit hard. Just when I was going to order a few Wavian Jerry cans. I ended up going with some old Czech milsurp cans for $25 each to try out and a couple of the Valpo manufactured Midwest Jerry cans for immediate use.

[MechAg94]

Probably reduces the air they suck up with the gas.

Lots of the internet sources for quality gas cans have been hit hard. Just when I was going to order a few Wavian Jerry cans. I ended up going with some old Czech milsurp cans for $25 each to try out and a couple of the Valpo manufactured Midwest Jerry cans for immediate use.

https://majorsurplus.com/20-liter-military-style-fuel-can.html
I think I have one of these.  I had to look up the Wavian.  Those look good.  They show in stock on their website (smaller cans only).
https://wavianusa.com/

[zxcvbob]

When the underground tanks are low on gas, the pumps slow down.  I've seen that many times.  Don't ask me why they slow as I have no idea.  Someone else on here may have the answer.

I have a good guess; the pumps have pretty good volume but not a lot of head, and when the level in the tanks gets low they have a few more feet to lift the gas and might be approaching their limit on suction head.  (the absolute max is less than 30' lift on the suction side.

[Grandpa Shooter]

$2.75-2.85 here in central Ky but we are above the pipeline and get our gas from a Marathon tank yard.  No shortage and no lines.

[JTHunter]

With so many people getting their gas while - or shortly after - a tanker unloads, I wonder how many will end up having engine problems later from all the dirt and condensation that gets stirred up in those underground tanks and pumped into their tanks? 

[Grandpa Shooter]

With so many people getting their gas while - or shortly after - a tanker unloads, I wonder how many will end up having engine problems later from all the dirt and condensation that gets stirred up in those underground tanks and pumped into their tanks? 

We seem to agree on a lot of issues.  I find myself nodding my head when I read your posts.  Since I am considered as being way out there in my take on things, I have to wonder what your folks think.

[RocketMan]

I have a good guess; the pumps have pretty good volume but not a lot of head, and when the level in the tanks gets low they have a few more feet to lift the gas and might be approaching their limit on suction head.  (the absolute max is less than 30' lift on the suction side.

That sounds like a reasonable explanation.

[zxcvbob]

That sounds like a reasonable explanation.

Actually since gasoline is lighter than water, the theoretical limit is probably a little more than 30 feet.    I forgot that part.  But I still think that's the reason the pumps slow down; they are working harder to lift the column of liquid up from the tank.

[K Frame]

When the underground tanks are low on gas, the pumps slow down.  I've seen that many times.  Don't ask me why they slow as I have no idea.  Someone else on here may have the answer.

Except the tanks had been filled, literally that afternoon.

I'm also hearing from a bunch of other people who have hit other stations that the pumps have been slowed down. I still think it has more to do with idiots filling water bottles than anything else.

[K Frame]

I don't buy the head lift explanation.

Most gas station tanks are no bigger than 24,000 gallons, which is a mean dimension of 9 feet in diameter by about 48 feet long (not all stations have tanks that big, either).

Gas station tanks are buried between 5-10 feet deep, depending on ground conditions, but the average seems to be about 7 feet. So, 7 feet plus 9 feet means the bottom of the tank is 16 feet. And those tanks don't draw off the bottom, they either use dip tubes or side draw with the pipe a few feet from the bottom of tank, so realistically a vertical lift of between 12-14 feet.

There are a couple of different kinds of pumps -- tank submerged impellers and push fuel up, and more standard suction pumps that sit outside the tank and pull fuel out.

Neither style has much trouble dealing with a 14 foot vertical lift. The amount of lift the pump needs to generate also doesn't change. It remains static because the pump and dip tube locations don't change relative to the level of gas in the tank.

[zxcvbob]

I don't buy the head lift explanation.

Most gas station tanks are no bigger than 24,000 gallons, which is a mean dimension of 9 feet in diameter by about 48 feet long (not all stations have tanks that big, either).

Gas station tanks are buried between 5-10 feet deep, depending on ground conditions, but the average seems to be about 7 feet. So, 7 feet plus 9 feet means the bottom of the tank is 16 feet. And those tanks don't draw off the bottom, they either use dip tubes or side draw with the pipe a few feet from the bottom of tank, so realistically a vertical lift of between 12-14 feet.

There are a couple of different kinds of pumps -- tank submerged impellers and push fuel up, and more standard suction pumps that sit outside the tank and pull fuel out.

Neither style has much trouble dealing with a 14 foot vertical lift. The amount of lift the pump needs to generate also doesn't change. It remains static because the pump and dip tube locations don't change relative to the level of gas in the tank.

The lift does change with the level of gas in the tank; doesn't matter whether you draw from the bottom or the top, and it does affect the flow rate out of a suction pump.  I don't know if it's a significant amount or not.

[WLJ]

Please tell me this is fake