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Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« on: November 24, 2014, 05:58:56 PM »
We just don't yet know what it is.  Bizarre, all this posturing and waiting.  And waiting...........

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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2014, 06:35:30 PM »
If they were indicting him, they'd have announced it. Delaying the announcement gives local police time to prepare for the chaos
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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2014, 06:39:15 PM »
If they were indicting him, they'd have announced it. Delaying the announcement gives local police time to prepare for the chaos

Although I was unaware until just now that they can indict him all the way down to second degree involuntary manslaughter. I wouldn't be surprised if, even without strong evidence, they indicted him for that, figuring he'll end up with some kind of probation, as a way to appease the rioters and/or the hand wringing population at large.

Not that anything short of murder in the first would appease them.
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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2014, 06:47:15 PM »
Situational Awareness of A *expletive deleted*ing Rock...they are planning a Ferguson "response" in our state capitol, at the state house.

This is our governor. She lives across the yard from the state house. It's definitely in their best interest not to do anything but a nice legal actual protest. 



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Not that anything short of murder in the first would appease them.

Actually they want to lynch Wilson and gang-rape and cut the throats of his family, don't believe for a minute they would be satisfied by it going through the "justice" system.
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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2014, 06:53:59 PM »
Situational Awareness of A *expletive deleted*ing Rock...they are planning a Ferguson "response" in our state capitol, at the state house.

This is our governor. She lives across the yard from the state house. It's definitely in their best interest not to do anything but a nice legal actual protest. 



Actually they want to lynch Wilson and gang-rape and cut the throats of his family, don't believe for a minute they would be satisfied by it going through the "justice" system.


your mayor seems very happy :)

I figured this whole dragging things out was to make time and hope the rabble gets bored and wandered off.

you have to feel bad for Wilson, who probably just wants it over with already, even if they try to screw him over to appease the wolfs. At least then he'll know what to get ready for.
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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2014, 07:03:18 PM »
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your mayor seems very happy Smiley

Well it's kinda hard to be sad when firing a belt fed, except when you are in contact and you are about to reach the end of the belt. Then it's sad.

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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2014, 07:05:49 PM »
Well it's kinda hard to be sad when firing a belt fed, except when you are in contact and you are about to reach the end of the belt. Then it's sad.



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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2014, 07:14:02 PM »
Delayed verdict smacks of a no-bill.  Gotta give the police time to get into position.


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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2014, 07:37:02 PM »
Why in the world would they announce the verdict at night?  It seems that it would be better to wait until the morning when all of the protesters will be tired and hungry, the cops will be able to see what's going on, etc...
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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2014, 07:54:03 PM »
Why in the world would they announce the verdict at night?  It seems that it would be better to wait until the morning when all of the protesters will be tired and hungry, the cops will be able to see what's going on, etc...

That's a really good point. An early morning announcement would seem to be a safer bet, but then the people there for looting would probably use the delay as an excuse to riot tonight anyway. Kind of a no-win situation for civilization at-large.
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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2014, 07:54:38 PM »
Why in the world would they announce the verdict at night?  It seems that it would be better to wait until the morning when all of the protesters will be tired and hungry, the cops will be able to see what's going on, etc...

Pretty much the reason would be that later in the night is when the good people are at home and off the roads and such, and out of the way.

Morning at first light you get *expletive deleted*it started right as the school/workday starts rolling, and then it's a big mess.

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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2014, 07:58:50 PM »
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Pretty much the reason would be that later in the night is when the good people are at home and off the roads and such, and out of the way.

What I was going to say.  8pm is late enough for most people to be home, it's a Monday so not too many people out eating/being entertained.  It's also early enough that most should catch the news today, but perhaps not so early that most can get a good head full of 'steaming mad' going, organized protests/riots.  The real hotheads can riot overnight and be off the streets by morning.

It's also enough time for the Mayor/advisers to put together a speech and have it vetted.

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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2014, 08:00:47 PM »
Why in the world would they announce the verdict at night?  It seems that it would be better to wait until the morning when all of the protesters will be tired and hungry, the cops will be able to see what's going on, etc...

Hows the weather in Saint Louie?  Up here, 5 hrs north-east, it's showed over ice, and toadally crappy.  Not that they would have planned this, but such weather would limit mobility.  And then you can just turn out the street lights.
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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2014, 08:01:47 PM »
That's a really good point. An early morning announcement would seem to be a safer bet, but then the people there for looting would probably use the delay as an excuse to riot tonight anyway. Kind of a no-win situation for civilization at-large.

The same thought occurred to me.  Even the dumbest social justice warrior would suspect that the delay means no indictment.  Are they "protesting" yet?
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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2014, 08:15:27 PM »
Bits I've seen on the FOX looks like the crowds are pretty on edge and ready to cut loose. Still my opinion that there will be violence either way. Maybe a little less so if they hand down an indictment.
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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2014, 08:21:02 PM »
Pretty much the reason would be that later in the night is when the good people are at home and off the roads and such, and out of the way.

Morning at first light you get *expletive deleted* it started right as the school/workday starts rolling, and then it's a big mess.



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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2014, 08:40:26 PM »
There will be either riots of anger or celebration, IMO. I think the bit about the police getting themselves ready are due to the expectation of riots regardless of the outcome, and agree why 8pm local would be a good time to announce. 
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Re: Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2014, 09:15:23 PM »
Well it's 9pm EST and USA Today reports a no bill.
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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2014, 09:15:58 PM »
here we go
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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2014, 09:17:10 PM »
Several MSM outlets are reporting no indictment, but no official word yet.  I am watching the NBC evening news, and they have not yet broken into the coverage with the live annoucement.
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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2014, 09:18:15 PM »
The live announcement is happening now.

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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2014, 09:18:46 PM »
I'm watching it live now. Prosecutor  hasn't said yet.

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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2014, 09:19:44 PM »
I'm watching it live now. Prosecutor  hasn't said yet.

Yep, he's still going on about the investigation

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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2014, 09:22:16 PM »
Live announcement still going on, but NBC just said multiple sources close to the family say that the family was told there will be no indictment.
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Re: Grand Jury has a verdict in Ferguson
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2014, 09:24:18 PM »
Live announcement still going on, but NBC just said multiple sources close to the family say that the family was told there will be no indictment.

I'm guessing the poor guy is trying to convince the masses to stop and pay attention the the facts than the racial BS.
I'm guessing it will be futile.
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