Author Topic: Shooting in Charleston church (Read 24933 times)

Phyphor · « **on:** June 17, 2015, 11:27:00 PM »

....immediate news is 8 believed dead, black church, white shooter.

Race baiting, ahoy!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/17/charleston-south-carolina-shooting/28902017/

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #1 on:** June 18, 2015, 12:44:28 AM »

Oh for cryin' out loud.

Most of the violent attacks on religious groups, in recent American history, seem to have happened to mostly-white groups. Just going by my fuzzy memory. I don't suppose that will be remembered in the response to this.

gunsmith · « **Reply #2 on:** June 18, 2015, 01:37:22 AM »

is it legal to carry a gun into a Church there?

BobR · « **Reply #3 on:** June 18, 2015, 02:00:09 AM »

Quote from: gunsmith on June 18, 2015, 01:37:22 AM

is it legal to carry a gun into a Church there?

I don't believe so, unless you have permission from the head of the facility.

bob

gunsmith · « **Reply #4 on:** June 18, 2015, 03:09:34 AM »

I wouldn't go to a Church where I couldn't carry but most folks don't feel that way.
Praying for them for sure, terrible terrible news.

lupinus · « **Reply #5 on:** June 18, 2015, 03:40:35 AM »

Quote from: BobR on June 18, 2015, 02:00:09 AM

I don't believe so, unless you have permission from the head of the facility.

bob

This. Though the law isnt to specific on who can give permission

MillCreek · « **Reply #6 on:** June 18, 2015, 08:26:09 AM »

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/18/us/charleston-south-carolina-shooting/index.html

Nine people shot dead during a prayer meeting in a Charleston church, including the pastor. The suspect is still at large. He is a white male in his early 20's.

vaskidmark · « **Reply #7 on:** June 18, 2015, 09:03:19 AM »

Fox news talking head just said "the shooter reloaded five times."

That's a heck of a lot of boolits.

stay safe.

roo_ster · « **Reply #8 on:** June 18, 2015, 09:32:42 AM »

Quote from: gunsmith on June 18, 2015, 03:09:34 AM

I wouldn't go to a Church where I couldn't carry but most folks don't feel that way.
Praying for them for sure, terrible terrible news.

This.

Ron · « **Reply #9 on:** June 18, 2015, 09:34:34 AM »

I heard a state senator is among the dead. Went back to find the link and it was gone off of fb.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #10 on:** June 18, 2015, 09:39:57 AM »

Quote from: vaskidmark on June 18, 2015, 09:03:19 AM

Fox news talking head just said "the shooter reloaded five times."

Wait. I thought you were supposed to be able to tackle people while they're reloading.

Jamisjockey · « **Reply #11 on:** June 18, 2015, 09:41:59 AM »

It's already a "hate crime". No real idea on motive but they're all convinced it was solely because it was a black church.
I'm not discounting the idea that it likely was racially motivated. But for all we know the *expletive deleted*er has demons circling his head telling him to kill.

vaskidmark · « **Reply #12 on:** June 18, 2015, 09:48:30 AM »

Quote from: Ron on June 18, 2015, 09:34:34 AM

I heard a state senator is among the dead. Went back to find the link and it was gone off of fb.

SC State Senator Pinkney was also pastor of the church. All over the news.

stay safe.

dogmush · « **Reply #13 on:** June 18, 2015, 09:48:51 AM »

Quote from: fistful on June 18, 2015, 09:39:57 AM

Wait. I thought you were supposed to be able to tackle people while they're reloading.

Realistically it depends on your mindset, health, distance to shooter and stuff between the two of you. Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't.

One sized/situation fits all snark in reaction to tragedy is (or should be) the tactic of our adversaries.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #14 on:** June 18, 2015, 10:18:42 AM »

Quote from: dogmush on June 18, 2015, 09:48:51 AM

Realistically it depends on your mindset, health, distance to shooter and stuff between the two of you. Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't.

One sized/situation fits all snark in reaction to tragedy is (or should be) the tactic of our adversaries.

Snark nothin'. If real life demonstrates that human rights violations (mag-limiting laws) don't work, we should note it, and tell one another about it.*

As someone who finds himself sitting in a church with his back to the door three times a week, I don't wish to downplay the tragedy of all this.

*Not that I'm putting much stock in early news reports

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #15 on:** June 18, 2015, 10:24:48 AM »

Dylan storm roof is the shooter

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Phyphor · « **Reply #16 on:** June 18, 2015, 10:26:15 AM »

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #17 on:** June 18, 2015, 10:26:28 AM »

Dylan storm roof was shooter. Had some drug charges in past

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MechAg94 · « **Reply #18 on:** June 18, 2015, 10:39:14 AM »

Did the witness identify confirm that identity?

Nevermind, found the link.
http://www.live5news.com/story/29347341/police-confirm-bomb-threat-at-scene-of-downtown-charleston-shooting

Headless Thompson Gunner · « **Reply #19 on:** June 18, 2015, 11:13:57 AM »

Is it racist to assume that, because the shooter was white, he must have done it because he was racist?

brimic · « **Reply #20 on:** June 18, 2015, 11:17:23 AM »

Quote from: fistful on June 18, 2015, 10:18:42 AM

Snark nothin'. If real life demonstrates that human rights violations (mag-limiting laws) don't work, we should note it, and tell one another about it.*

As someone who finds himself sitting in a church with his back to the door three times a week, I don't wish to downplay the tragedy of all this.

*Not that I'm putting much stock in early news reports

Two words: Tactical reload.

Keeping one in the chamber at all times means that there is no 'charging the shooter when he's reloading.'

brimic · « **Reply #21 on:** June 18, 2015, 11:24:53 AM »

Quote from: Phyphor on June 18, 2015, 10:26:15 AM

Dang. Could have loaded him up with a rifle and lots of ammo, gave him a helmet with a Go-Pro mounted on it, dropped him to South Africa and enjoyed the show.
I can completely understand his beef with the mass murdering communists in the ANC on another continent, but to take his issue out in the USA, at a church no less, makes no sense.

MillCreek · « **Reply #22 on:** June 18, 2015, 11:26:03 AM »

We should probably combine the two threads on this topic into one.

MillCreek · « **Reply #23 on:** June 18, 2015, 11:30:41 AM »

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/18/us-usa-shooting-south-carolina-idUSKBN0OY06A20150618

Charming comments by the alleged shooter, from the article:

He reloaded five times even as victims pleaded with him to stop, a relative of Pinckney's said. Sylvia Johnson, a cousin, told MSNBC that a survivor told her the gunman reloaded five times during the attack. Pinckney tried to talk him out of it, she said.
"He just said, 'I have to do it. You rape our women and you're taking over our country," Johnson said.

MillCreek · « **Reply #24 on:** June 18, 2015, 11:34:21 AM »

My wife just texted me that the suspect is in custody.

News:

Author Topic: Shooting in Charleston church (Read 24933 times)