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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2019, 08:18:49 AM »

Louisiana is taxed by Amazon as well.
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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2019, 08:56:47 AM »

As is Virginia.

If there's a physical presence, such as a fulfillment center, somewhere in the state, it triggers sales tax for the entire state.

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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2019, 09:31:01 AM »

$500/month.
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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2019, 12:36:15 PM »

Louisiana is taxed by Amazon as well.

Uh, a corporation is making your state pay taxes to it? I knew Amazon was large and powerful, but I had no idea...
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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2019, 12:47:55 PM »

As is Virginia.

If there's a physical presence, such as a fulfillment center, somewhere in the state, it triggers sales tax for the entire state.



Same here in OH, but we got a AWS Data Center in Columbus and that spurred the inclusion of sales tax for OH residents.
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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2019, 05:42:06 AM »

Yup, Oklahoma went that route. Now I see sales tax added on to my online orders. I need to dig in to it and find out if I'm being taxed correctly. I'm pretty sure I'm hit for city, county and state based on my mailing address. But, I don't live in the city so shouldn't get hit with city tax.
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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2019, 05:53:09 AM »

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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2019, 05:59:31 AM »

Yup, Oklahoma went that route. Now I see sales tax added on to my online orders. I need to dig in to it and find out if I'm being taxed correctly. I'm pretty sure I'm hit for city, county and state based on my mailing address. But, I don't live in the city so shouldn't get hit with city tax.

I doubt there's anything you could do about it (not that you shouldn't be able to). The gov puts the onus on the businesses to charge the correct tax. While there might be some geodatabase down to the address level for sales taxes, if a business had to create that themselves to ensure they weren't charging city taxes to people living outside city limits, they'd go broke.

I live outside the city too, but I'm pretty sure the database used is just related to your mailing address, which will have the city closest to you linked to your sales tax. Or it may even be the city taxes for the Amazon (or whoever) distribution center. Just like when I bought my last truck, I bought it in a city 30 miles from me, and the taxes were for that city - which actually saved me like $400 over buying it in the city nearest to me.
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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2019, 06:00:45 AM »

In unrelated news the Seattle City Council has reportedly bought a bunch of one way bus tickets.   =D

Well, that's cheaper than what Hawaii did.  :laugh:
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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2019, 06:03:27 AM »

Well, that's cheaper than what Hawaii did.  :laugh:

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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2019, 01:30:06 AM »

One online store didn't like it when they were sent a bill for improperly collecting sales tax from me by the local city.

I even contacted them and said I don't live in city limits and that their service is even specifically excluded from the tax, but they insisted they had to.  So I went to the city with the bill, the city agreed that it was improper, refunded me, then charged the business for the hassle.

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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2019, 05:18:34 AM »

One online store didn't like it when they were sent a bill for improperly collecting sales tax from me by the local city.

I even contacted them and said I don't live in city limits and that their service is even specifically excluded from the tax, but they insisted they had to.  So I went to the city with the bill, the city agreed that it was improper, refunded me, then charged the business for the hassle.

While you were within both your legal and moral rights, I would still be concerned about forcing online business to figure that out. I think it would run the smaller ones out of business, and the big guys would raise their prices to the point that you might as well just go to the brick and mortar places.

Which is fine if you live near brick and mortar places, but ironically, it's the Internet stores that have greatly benefited rural dwellers.

I suppose this could create a market for a GIS business to create and constantly update a geospatial tax database that they could then sell as a subscription to online businesses. Though again, the smaller ones probably couldn't afford it.
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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2019, 07:57:56 AM »

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Which is fine if you live near brick and mortar places, but ironically, it's the Internet stores that have greatly benefited rural dwellers.

Living out in the country + Amazon has drastically changed my shopping habits. I use the local hardware store more (10 min away), and rarely step foot into big box stores anymore. Nearest walmart is 20 min away, the nearest Home Depot, 15 min...
Other than lumber, if I need something, but can live without it for 2 days, I order from Amazon.
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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2019, 08:12:31 AM »

Living out in the country + Amazon has drastically changed my shopping habits. I use the local hardware store more (10 min away), and rarely step foot into big box stores anymore. Nearest walmart is 20 min away, the nearest Home Depot, 15 min...
Other than lumber, if I need something, but can live without it for 2 days, I order from Amazon.

Yeah, I plan on using the local Ace Hardware and small lumber yard a lot. Probably the Dollar Store too. HD or Lowes are now 35-45 minutes away (in good weather) depending on if I want to shop in Idaho or Oregon. I suppose for a larger purchase that I want to touch before I buy, it's worth going to Oregon to not have any sales tax.
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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2019, 04:21:45 PM »

Living out in the country + Amazon has drastically changed my shopping habits. I use the local hardware store more (10 min away), and rarely step foot into big box stores anymore. Nearest walmart is 20 min away, the nearest Home Depot, 15 min...
Other than lumber, if I need something, but can live without it for 2 days, I order from Amazon.

10, 15, 20 minutes is not out in the country.  You’re suburban at most.
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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2019, 04:59:05 PM »

10, 15, 20 minutes is not out in the country.  You’re suburban at most.

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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2019, 04:16:35 AM »

10, 15, 20 minutes is not out in the country.  You’re suburban at most.

If directions to your house do not include the phrase "turn off the paved road" how country can you be?
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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2019, 04:25:38 AM »

If directions to your house do not include the phrase "turn off the paved road" how country can you be?

In my county you can be off a gravel road and 5 minutes from town...
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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2019, 05:07:36 AM »

Yeah, it's hard to define "rural" by either time or distance. I've been in plenty of cities where 20 minutes of driving gets you 5 miles down the road. Other places, 20 minutes gets you 20 miles.

Also, you can't really go by "Can you see your neighbor?". I would say that a little mountain community of 200 that's 20 miles from the closest "city" is rural, even if your neighbor is 20 yards away. You can also have 10-20 acres and more space than someone in that tucked away mountain community but only be 5 miles from the Costco.
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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2019, 05:26:12 AM »

I seem to remember coming across people who considered a city of 25,000 to be out in the country.  It is all relative. 
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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #45 on: March 22, 2019, 05:30:35 AM »

I seem to remember coming across people who considered a city of 25,000 to be out in the country.  It is all relative. 

I'm thinking the new definition of "rural" should be bandwidth*. If you're in the single digits, you're rural.  :laugh:


* At least until the LEO satellite swarms finally freakin' come online.
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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #46 on: March 22, 2019, 06:37:29 AM »

10, 15, 20 minutes is not out in the country.  You’re suburban at most.

I live in a township, between 2 suburbs, on an acre and a half of land, and have my own well and septic system, and people  are able to shoot in their back yards... but yes, my current digs are far more suburban than where I grew up.
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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #47 on: March 22, 2019, 06:54:03 AM »

I live in a township, between 2 suburbs, on an acre and a half of land, and have my own well and septic system, and people  are able to shoot in their back yards... but yes, my current digs are far more suburban than where I grew up.

I have a similar setup.  19 acres, own well and septic, no gas line available, can and do shoot on my property, but there is a Lowes, Walmart, Starbucks, etc. within 6 miles of my house.  I consider my area suburban just because of the proximity to shopping.  If I can make a quick run to the store, or get pizza delivered, I don’t think I’m rural. 

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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #48 on: March 22, 2019, 07:26:46 AM »

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Re: $1000 a Month for Every American!
« Reply #49 on: March 22, 2019, 07:33:07 AM »

If I can make a quick run to the store, or get pizza delivered, I don’t think I’m rural. 

I would agree with this. Rural areas don't get delivery (except by USPS/UPS/Fedex)
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