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Hawkmoon

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Baseball debacle
« on: November 12, 2019, 08:35:37 PM »

High school junior varsity coach tells his player to slide. Kid breaks his ankle -- major lawsuit results.

https://www.nj.com/slide-trial/

What happened to the kid sucks. That (IMHO) doesn't eliminate the fact that injuries happen in sports. Heck, that kid is still alive. Just a couple of days ago I read an article about a college gymnast -- top flight -- who slipped, fell, broke her back and died. Should her family sue the coach?

The father wants "somebody" to be responsible. To be contrarian, maybe somebody should have taught the kid how to slide.

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Re: Baseball debacle
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2019, 08:45:38 PM »

How many high school kids do we here about dieing when football practice starts? Or basketball or any other sport.
Bad things happen to kids but sometimes there is too much push on kids playing a game.
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Re: Baseball debacle
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2019, 08:57:08 PM »

The father and a lawyer smell money
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Re: Baseball debacle
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2019, 09:01:35 PM »

How many high school kids do we here about dieing when football practice starts? Or basketball or any other sport.
Bad things happen to kids but sometimes there is too much push on kids playing a game.

True enough.

My senior year of high school, one of the guys whom I had known since first grade collapsed and died on the rink at a pre-season hockey practice. His parents did not sue the school or the coach.
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Re: Baseball debacle
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2019, 05:16:21 AM »

Good thing he didn't slide head first.

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Re: Baseball debacle
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2019, 07:51:10 AM »

Back when I was a student trainer for my college I accompanied the team to a football game at Catholic University in DC. During a play a couple of our players tackled the quarterback and the result was one of the most devastating injuries I've ever heard of. Essentially the only thing holding his leg on was the skin; everything else was torn.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1986/09/14/gallis-is-just-happy-he-can-walk/493adf7c-1771-4339-b7b2-8cec32687c57/

He also ended up suing, but sued the university over an alleged failure to provide proper protective equipment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1988/12/14/ex-quarterback-gallis-sues-catholic-u-over-football-injury/0fc10280-fa52-4be3-be51-e8001e526e4a/

Not exactly sure what kind of equipment would have prevented that kind of knee injury. Linemen wear knee braces to prevent side-to-side collapse, but those can really limit mobility, especially for a scramble-type quarterback like he was.

Not sure how the lawsuit ended, but they must have come to something agreeable as he was inducted into CU's hall of fame in 2016.

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Re: Baseball debacle
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2019, 07:49:21 AM »

My wife slid off the 2nd or 3rd bottom stair in the basement and broke/dislocated her ankle about a month and a half ago. When I talked to the orthopedic surgeon, I got the impression that this was a very common injury, as he said its the most common surgery he does- fix ligaments and tendons that encircle the ankle, screw the fibula back together.
Pic was from immediately before they relocated the ankle.



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Re: Baseball debacle
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2019, 09:17:05 AM »

The father and a lawyer smell money

There's also probably a sense of "he got SERIOUSLY hurt. Someone should have to pay (be punished) for that!!"

Lots of people cannot accept that sometimes bad things happen. The breaking of an ankle was a possible consequence of a bad slide. USUALLY you don't get a broken ankle.

USUALLY a broken ankle heals up easily. Sometime you get complications. USUALLY those are dealt with and people have a perfectly normal life.

The father can't accept that his son got what is likely a Billion to 1 injury. It sucks, but sometimes life just sucks. Taking it out on someone who did nothing wrong but was there doing his job properly just increases the amount that life sucks for someone else. It doesn't help your son.
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Re: Baseball debacle
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2019, 09:53:12 AM »

I doubt this was the first time he ever slid in a game or practice.  IMO, as long as the infield was in decent condition, I don't see where there is a claim.

I messed up my ankle once playing softball.  Slid into 3rd base.  The dirt of the infield was a thin layer over gravel.  My trailing foot caught and turned under me.  Lucky I didn't break it.  I never attempted to slide again after that. 
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Re: Baseball debacle
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2019, 01:49:16 PM »

His coach told him to slide.

Ultimately, though, he MADE the decision to slide.
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Re: Baseball debacle
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2019, 03:38:38 PM »

IMHO, it's another facet of the victim culture that has developed in this crazy world.  No on takes responsibility for what happens to themselves.  Crash a car, so the car or the tires or the road must have been bad.  Add to that the fact that lawyer rules now allow attorneys to advertise, which only exacerbates the issue.  So, you get hurt. Nothing is your fault.  Lawyer on TV says everyone deserves money.  So, sue.
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Re: Baseball debacle
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2019, 03:39:41 PM »

IMHO, it's another facet of the victim culture that has developed in this crazy world.  No on takes responsibility for what happens to themselves.  Crash a car, so the car or the tires or the road must have been bad.  Add to that the fact that lawyer rules now allow attorneys to advertise, which only exacerbates the issue.  So, you get hurt. Nothing is your fault.  Lawyer on TV says everyone deserves money.  So, sue.

It's all those damn lawyers' faults!
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Re: Baseball debacle
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2019, 04:02:55 PM »

IMHO, it's another facet of the victim culture that has developed in this crazy world.  No on takes responsibility for what happens to themselves.  Crash a car, so the car or the tires or the road must have been bad.  Add to that the fact that lawyer rules now allow attorneys to advertise, which only exacerbates the issue.  So, you get hurt. Nothing is your fault.  Lawyer on TV says everyone deserves money.  So, sue.

Something like 90% of the billboards around here along the local expressways are for accident lawyers
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Re: Baseball debacle
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2019, 04:18:20 PM »

Something like 90% of the billboards around here along the local expressways are for accident lawyers
I got into a wreck because those billboards were distracting.  .....call lawyer on next billboard down.   =)
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Re: Baseball debacle
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2019, 04:25:43 PM »

I got into a wreck because those billboards were distracting.  .....call lawyer on next billboard down.   =)

Most of them are the same guy

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Re: Baseball debacle
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2019, 04:43:49 PM »

Billboards are soooooo last decade. One of the biggest-name accident attorneys in my area has his ads plastered on the sides of all the public transit buses.

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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2019, 04:46:13 PM »

Billboards are soooooo last decade. One of the biggest-name accident attorneys in my area has his ads plastered on the sides of all the public transit buses.

Here too
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Re: Baseball debacle
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2019, 04:50:40 PM »

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Re: Baseball debacle
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2019, 10:12:07 PM »

Most of them are the same guy



There has to be an extra chromosome in that one.
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Re: Baseball debacle
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2019, 10:27:04 PM »

Most of them are the same guy



So that's what the Incredible Hulk does between Avengers movies.

Seriously -- that dude lost his neck.

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Re: Baseball debacle
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2019, 12:46:00 AM »

That phone number must have set him back a couple of hundred thou.  I only found out recently (I don't get out much) that the phone companies put special numbers up for bids.

I remember my lawyer (and hunting buddy) bellyaching when lawyers were allowed to advertise.  I felt as a private organization the no advertising rule was OK, but as an overall free enterprise thing, it wasn't proper.  But I never said anything.  After all, we often went afield together with loaded guns.

I was going to post something snotty about lawyers being the new Center for Disease Control.  Apparently they root around in medical statistics for things to sue over.  The latest, just coming to my attention today, is that apparently there are some nasty things in firefighting foam that firefighters can sue over.

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