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Re: China quarantines an entire city
« Reply #300 on: February 29, 2020, 01:51:31 PM »
First Corona death in the US. In Washington state.

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It sucks for that person, and their family, but I'm going to predict they had pre-existing, exacerbating conditions.  The US healthcare system is pretty good, if expensive, and we do ICU pretty well.  In searching for details on that death I ran across this article though:

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/coronavirus-outbreak-death-toll-infections-latest-news-updates-2020-02-28/

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Health officials announced a second coronavirus case in California on Friday in which they didn't know how the person was infected. Earlier, the World Health Organization upgraded the global risk from the outbreak to "very high."

The virus has disrupted plans for everything from major sports tournaments and concerts to planned U.S. military exercises. The global death toll is now over 2,800, and the disease has made its first worrying appearance in sub-Saharan Africa.

More than 83,000 cases of the COVID-19 disease have now been confirmed in more than 50 countries. While about 36,000 of those people have recovered, fast-growing outbreaks in South Korea, Italy and Iran — along with the first case confirmed in Nigeria — show the battle to contain the virus is still in its early stages.

In terms of human cost, I fear this is the start of ramping up.  I think this thing could roll through Africa (and parts of Latin America and Central Asia) with death rates like the Iranians are seeing.  Lots of folks already not that healthy, and not much for modern hospitals.

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Re: China quarantines an entire city
« Reply #301 on: February 29, 2020, 02:07:01 PM »

In terms of human cost, I fear this is the start of ramping up.  I think this thing could roll through Africa (and parts of Latin America and Central Asia) with death rates like the Iranians are seeing.  Lots of folks already not that healthy, and not much for modern hospitals.

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Re: China quarantines an entire city
« Reply #302 on: February 29, 2020, 02:34:59 PM »
It sucks for that person, and their family, but I'm going to predict they had pre-existing, exacerbating conditions.  The US healthcare system is pretty good, if expensive, and we do ICU pretty well.  In searching for details on that death I ran across this article though:

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/coronavirus-outbreak-death-toll-infections-latest-news-updates-2020-02-28/

In terms of human cost, I fear this is the start of ramping up.  I think this thing could roll through Africa (and parts of Latin America and Central Asia) with death rates like the Iranians are seeing.  Lots of folks already not that healthy, and not much for modern hospitals.


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Re: China quarantines an entire city
« Reply #303 on: February 29, 2020, 05:06:07 PM »
First Corona death in the US. In Washington state.

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Any numbers for the plain old flu for today?
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Re: China quarantines an entire city
« Reply #304 on: March 01, 2020, 07:19:49 AM »
Any numbers for the plain old flu for today?

Now, now. You can't cause a Trump Virus panic that benefits the Democrats with the plain old flu. You should know better than that.
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Re: China quarantines an entire city
« Reply #305 on: March 01, 2020, 05:40:38 PM »
Any numbers for the plain old flu for today?

Unfair comparison at this point.  Kung-flu isn’t widespread yet.  Influenza is.
The concerns for the Kung-flu should be the apparent high hospitalization rate compared to the regular flu.
Unless we can snuff this one out, we won’t know exactly how deadly it is overall until it runs through a bunch of countries.
Virologists worry that unchecked it could infect anywhere from 30-70% of the world pop.
2.3% of 30% of 7 billion+ people is around half a million.
The flu has a less than 1% mortality rate normally, sometimes as high as 2%.
So it could just be a really bad flu (after two bad flu years back to back), or it could run up to the high side of the infection estimated and kill millions.
It’s a giant question mark on how it will actually play out.  Good containment measures can slow this down to a non event.  Head in sand calling it a “hoax” letting infected people walk around concerts and schools?  Anyone’s guess.

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Re: China quarantines an entire city
« Reply #306 on: March 01, 2020, 07:00:12 PM »
As others have noted, the kill rate may be artificially inflated because many known people with the infection are experiencing symptoms akin to a mild cold. If you get a minor cold you don’t usually go to the doctor, so I bet infection numbers are way underreported.  The ones we find out about are either because of enhanced testing (I.e. on the cruise ships) or because of serious illness driving people to medical care.

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Re: China quarantines an entire city
« Reply #307 on: March 01, 2020, 07:50:54 PM »
Here’s some light reading on why this thing is a big *expletive deleted*ing deal

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf

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Re: China quarantines an entire city
« Reply #308 on: March 06, 2020, 02:28:42 PM »
Locking this thread, and the COVID19 extent thread. See this thread http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=61872.msg1245097#new to continue the conversation on all things Corona except the beer.
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