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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #4950 on: February 19, 2021, 12:33:29 PM »

I just got off the weekly COVID call with County Health.  With the increase of the various variants and varying degrees of effectiveness of the current vaccines against the variants, the CDC is thinking as to if we may eventually need an annual vaccine or booster, much like the annual flu.  Interesting. 
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #4951 on: February 19, 2021, 12:35:43 PM »

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #4952 on: February 19, 2021, 12:38:32 PM »

So when can we ditch the face diapers?

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« Reply #4953 on: February 19, 2021, 12:50:19 PM »

So when can we ditch the face diapers?

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #4954 on: February 19, 2021, 12:53:35 PM »

So when can we ditch the face diapers?

The most recent (January 2021) clinical opinion I have heard on that is when 75% or so of the US population is vaccinated.  But I wonder if that may change due to the variants.
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« Reply #4955 on: February 19, 2021, 12:57:52 PM »

Two generations to flatten the curve.
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« Reply #4956 on: February 19, 2021, 01:21:43 PM »

The most recent (January 2021) clinical opinion I have heard on that is when 75% or so of the US population is vaccinated.  But I wonder if that may change due to the variants.

And how long will that take?  So far they’re getting about 2% per month.  At that rate it’ll be 3years to 75%, not counting the apparent need for at least annual boosters.

Even if that speeds up a lot, it’ll still be a year+ to get there.  And if they’re going to play games with mutations resetting the goal posts, I expect mask fatigue will be huge before we get to the point they “let” us unmask.

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« Reply #4957 on: February 19, 2021, 01:26:33 PM »

^^^As to that, I don't know.  I certainly hear the scuttlebutt about how the Feds and states are working to ramp up the immunization rate, but I don't know the projections. 

ETA: I just looked up the County data:  as of 2/13/2021, 18,416 second doses have been administered and are fully immunized.  Obviously, there are some people crossing county lines to get vaccine, but we have over 830,000 people in my county.  'Drop in the bucket' comes to mind.  We could be running our mass vaccination clinics every day if we had the vaccine, but we don't.
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« Reply #4958 on: February 19, 2021, 02:06:01 PM »

The flu vaccine they’ve been pushing for years (decades?) barely, if even, gets half the population. 

Except for HPV, which is under 40%, most vaccinations are are at 85%+, but those are also very long lasting vaccines, not annual ones.  They’re also ones that have mostly been around for VERY long times, with well known safety and efficacy.  The newer ones (meningitis and varicella) took 4 or more years to reach 75% rates in teens. 

I’m guessing that we will never reach 75%, especially if that’s a “within the last year” kind of measurement.  And TPTB know that.

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« Reply #4959 on: February 19, 2021, 02:27:28 PM »

^^^In  healthcare, one of the typical quality metrics that you are graded on is pediatric immunizations: the HEDIS Combo 10 (https://www.rchsd.org/documents/2018/08/cis-childhood-immunization-status-cis.pdf/).  Depending on the demographics of your patient population and payor mix, we struggle to get above 50% of this metric.  Immunization is difficult and more difficult the more shots you have to give at different times.
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« Reply #4960 on: February 19, 2021, 03:03:28 PM »

The most recent (January 2021) clinical opinion I have heard on that is when 75% or so of the US population is vaccinated.  But I wonder if that may change due to the variants.

Out of curiosity, what was the source of that clinical opinion?

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« Reply #4961 on: February 19, 2021, 03:18:44 PM »

Out of curiosity, what was the source of that clinical opinion?

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« Reply #4962 on: February 19, 2021, 03:32:16 PM »

Out of curiosity, what was the source of that clinical opinion?

I have read in several sources of media quoting Dr. Fauci making that statement, and I think I have read similar opinions from other public health sources.
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« Reply #4963 on: February 19, 2021, 03:37:23 PM »

I have read in several sources of media quoting Dr. Fauci making that statement, and I think I have read similar opinions from other public health sources.
Huh, I thought he had already admitted that his 70 to 75% was a manipulative lie by January.  By December he was saying 80 to 85 percent.

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“When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75 percent. Then, when newer surveys said 60 percent or more would take it, I thought, ‘I can nudge this up a bit,’ so I went to 80, 85,” he said.

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« Reply #4964 on: February 19, 2021, 03:55:39 PM »

Huh, I thought he had already admitted that his 70 to 75% was a manipulative lie by January.  By December he was saying 80 to 85 percent.

I knew I had seen this just recently in my Google News feed:

https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/dr-fauci-keep-wearing-masks-for-several-several-months-while-vaccines-roll-out/

So he must have said this most recently a little over a week ago on 'Good Morning America'.
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« Reply #4965 on: February 19, 2021, 05:46:08 PM »

So he must have said this most recently a little over a week ago on 'Good Morning America'.
Thanks.  Given that he's already publicly admitted that he lies about that specific figure to get people to behave differently it's hard for me to put much faith in whatever his current take is relating to herd immunity. 

I was hoping there was some sort of study that gave a number with some backing.

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« Reply #4966 on: February 19, 2021, 06:22:54 PM »

He's worn so many holes in his flip flops that he most have a closet full of them.
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« Reply #4967 on: February 19, 2021, 06:56:07 PM »

He's worn so many holes in his flip flops that he most have a closet full of them.

Does he keep stepping on pop tops?
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #4969 on: February 19, 2021, 11:50:13 PM »

The most recent (January 2021) clinical opinion I have heard on that is when 75% or so of the US population is vaccinated.  But I wonder if that may change due to the variants.

I heard a report today that we might reach "herd immunity"  by mid to late April.   ;/   

So far most reports I've heard say the vaccine will work on the variants,  but not as effectively on the African version of THE ANDROMEDA STRAIN- - - - -oooops,  I mean covid 19. :facepalm:
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #4970 on: February 20, 2021, 08:13:00 AM »

$100 million of covid relief to go to building underground rail in Silicon Valley, where the average salary is like a bajillion dollars. They could pay for it out of their lunch money.


https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/house-covid-bill-millions-silicon-valley-transportation-project


ETA: Here's a bunch more.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/02/20/mega-thread-breaks-down-where-all-of-the-covid-19-relief-money-in-the-house-bill-is-going-hint-not-to-you/
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« Reply #4971 on: February 20, 2021, 04:49:30 PM »

A picture is worth a thousand words :rofl:

Maybe the US shouldn’t consider its own ‘Droplet Joe’ mascot to make vaccination less scary for kids
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/02/20/maybe-the-us-shouldnt-consider-its-own-droplet-joe-mascot-to-make-vaccination-less-scary-for-kids/

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #4973 on: February 21, 2021, 03:28:03 PM »

Two generations to flatten the curve.

Never going to happen.  "They" will find more variants.
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« Reply #4974 on: February 22, 2021, 08:30:08 AM »

Move over Coivd19, here comes H5N8

Russia tells World Health Organization it has detected first case of avian flu strain in humans
https://www.wlky.com/article/russia-tells-world-health-organization-it-has-detected-first-case-of-avian-flu-strain-in-humans/35576369
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