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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6850 on: May 11, 2022, 11:08:14 PM »

What is most likely to be the biggest problem facing the ChiComs?
Overpopulation.  :O
What is the least troublesome yet fastest way to reduce that overpopulation?  Yep, a airborne disease that is most dangerous to the elderly or those with pre-existing health problems.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6851 on: May 11, 2022, 11:40:12 PM »

China absolutely does not have an overpopulation problem.  Even before Covid.  Their 1-child policy was far too successful.  It’s now thought the 2000 census overcounted the (by now) under 35 cohort by 100mil.  The child bearing age Chinese are not reproducing and anywhere close to replacement rates.  They’re now the fastest aging society in history.  Getting rid of the elderly has more to do with reducing the burden on the younger generations than reducing overall population.  For the simple reason that there aren’t enough younger Chinese to care for the elderly.

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6852 on: May 12, 2022, 12:11:23 AM »

It's also damn near impossible for your basic communist village-based agrarian society to support manufacturing...
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6853 on: May 12, 2022, 08:12:34 AM »

It's also damn near impossible for your basic communist village-based agrarian society to support manufacturing...

That's a feature, not a bug.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6854 on: May 12, 2022, 09:12:38 AM »

China absolutely does not have an overpopulation problem.  Even before Covid.  Their 1-child policy was far too successful.  It’s now thought the 2000 census overcounted the (by now) under 35 cohort by 100mil.  The child bearing age Chinese are not reproducing and anywhere close to replacement rates.  They’re now the fastest aging society in history.  Getting rid of the elderly has more to do with reducing the burden on the younger generations than reducing overall population.  For the simple reason that there aren’t enough younger Chinese to care for the elderly.
You mean an tyrannical govt policy meant to solve a problem did not work?  The hell you say!

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6855 on: May 12, 2022, 11:51:05 AM »

You mean an tyrannical govt policy meant to solve a problem did not work?  The hell you say!

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Who’d’ve thunk it?

Apparently the Russians and most of Western Europe aren’t much better off demographically.  The Malthusians were too persuasive I guess.  The USA has the advantage that the middle to late boomers actually had kids which is why the millennial generation is so large.  I’m Gen X (like probably a lot of us here) and we’re the smallest generation in a long time because early boomers and post war folks didn’t have hardly any kids.  But most millennials aren’t having a lot of kids so we’ll be in that situation as well in another 50 years.

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6856 on: May 12, 2022, 11:54:36 AM »

Yeah but our problem right now is that a large % of our young refuses to work
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6857 on: May 12, 2022, 07:01:48 PM »

I am actually surprised because I thought China would have started a large war by now since millions of men with zero chance of getting laid or having a family is not good for domestic tranquillity.
AKA Navy Joe   

I'm so contrarian that I didn't respond to the thread.

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6858 on: May 14, 2022, 08:07:04 AM »

Guess who's got COVID now?
After reportedly holding it off for some time it's probably going to spread like wildfire

North Korea announces first death from Covid-19
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61432084

North Korea: Covid outbreak a great disaster, says Kim Jong-un
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61446907
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6859 on: May 14, 2022, 05:05:39 PM »

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It’s gotten to the point where I am rapid testing myself for COVID 2-3x/week because I like to see people and most of my gatherings involve food or drink.

How often are you testing?

Two to three times a week? Have they come up with the name for covidphobia yet?
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6860 on: May 14, 2022, 06:34:57 PM »

Two to three times a week? Have they come up with the name for covidphobia yet?

That would be an Ultra MAGA Karen Branch Covidian.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6861 on: May 14, 2022, 10:45:19 PM »

More like covidphilia...
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6862 on: May 15, 2022, 12:33:00 PM »

More like covidphilia...

Concur.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6864 on: May 15, 2022, 01:55:41 PM »

There they go, trying to morph the count of how many died "with" Covid to how many died "from" Covid.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6865 on: May 16, 2022, 02:38:48 AM »

Common Sense: Quarantine care facilities to curtail the possibility of nosocomial infection
 
Democrats: Covid patients have a right to be placed in any care facility
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6866 on: May 16, 2022, 04:23:50 AM »

Common Sense: Quarantine care facilities to curtail the possibility of nosocomial infection
 
Democrats: Covid patients have a right to be placed in any care facility

Cuomo: Puts patients in nursing homes and tries to put them on the navy hospital ship.

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6867 on: May 16, 2022, 09:10:21 AM »

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6868 on: May 16, 2022, 11:09:32 AM »

So they are saying the majority of the people who died would have died whether all adults were vaccinated or not.
Their claim is that from the point at which the vaccine was available, if everyone were vaccinated there would have been a further 72,324 deaths.
What was actually seen was 391,305 deaths.  Thus - according to their claim - vaccines (and boosters, and boosters, and boosters) could have saved 318,981 lives.  Most of the other deaths occurred before the vaccine was available.

I don't care enough about this particular study to dig deeper, but I tend to strongly doubt its usefulness or accuracy.

From the article:
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All of this comes down to trust – whether the political leadership creates the climate of trust in the public health agencies' efforts, in the science, in the ability of the health care system to deliver," Tsai says. "To me, this is a map of trust."
This.  Less than ideal vaccine acceptance has been caused by a continual failure of the public health system and their industry partners to establish and maintain trust based on their handling of this pandemic.  If a more serious pandemic happens in the next generation I foresee a near total breakdown in any public health measures that are implemented. 

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6869 on: May 16, 2022, 11:29:09 AM »

They also ignore vaccine deaths. The fact that they don't even show an estimate for vaccine deaths is  a glaring flaw and shows they are approaching the problem with biased eyes. And if they did show vaccine deaths, i would still criticize them because it's so difficult to know vaccine deaths. So the whole study would be one big error bar.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6870 on: May 16, 2022, 11:58:28 AM »

So they are saying the majority of the people who died would have died whether all adults were vaccinated or not.

Well, given that a large percentage of the people who died WITH it were already terminally ill?
 
Seriously - they were counting hospice patients.
 
Just checked the St. Louis page. Last death attributed was April 18. But the news is still pushing it.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6871 on: May 16, 2022, 12:07:12 PM »

So the whole study would be one big error bar.

Back when I was working in the labs at Pfizer (I don't say that often...), the data presentation that I keep seeing would have never made it out the door.
 
When the whole mess started with only looking at a portion of the data set, something was wrong.
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« Reply #6872 on: May 19, 2022, 11:05:03 AM »

Crap. Because of the COVID spike in our area, we are back to mandatory wearing of N95 masks if you are within six feet of a patient.  That pretty much means masking up the second you walk into the building and until you leave.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #6874 on: May 19, 2022, 11:03:17 PM »

And... I wonder just how many Long Covid patients there are...
 
And of that number, what percentage is hoping for a payday...
 
Because, it is FATAL and results in lung scarring...
 
(but what if you never show any symptoms?)
 
IT IS STILL FATAL! AND HAS LUNG SCARRING!
 
(even if they don't hook you up to a ventilator and overpressure?)
 
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