COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread

[K Frame]

Measles R0?

12 to 18.

[K Frame]

From another forum:

I hate to say it, but it fits so far.

I LOVE screechy panic monkey mode!

[Fly320s]

I LOVE screechy panic monkey mode!

My thought, too.

That guy needs to tighten his tinfoil hat.

[Ben]

Well, hoarding has hit the mainstream:

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/coronavirus-hoarding-boost-these-companies

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/coronavirus-california-oregon-grocery-panic

[K Frame]

Not surprising at all.

I was seeing some... interesting... gaps on the shelves at the local Walmart yesterday. Nothing untoward, and not widespread, and bread and milk were in plentiful supply, but random items that they normally have, such as Zatarain's Red Beans and Rice, were missing.

I've been talking to a number of my friends and I believe that we are all ahead of the bell curve on this.

[charby]

#2 died in Washington State this morning, how long until we quit counting deaths related to this virus in the US?

[makattak]

#2 died in Washington State this morning, how long until we quit counting deaths related to this virus in the US?

Pretty sure it'll need to top 20K.

And since it just passed 3K worldwide, that'll take a while.

[makattak]

I've been talking to a number of my friends and I believe that we are all ahead of the bell curve on this.

We tend to be more aware of what's going on in the world as that is one of our hobbies. (As evidenced by our discussions here.)

I don't think any of use were panicking- the risk to otherwise healthy people from this virus is fairly small.¹ As my biggest concern is my children, I was relieved to read how coronavirii tend not to be dangerous to young children.

As most of us also tend to be ready for emergency events, this is a "mini-prep" and all it took us was to do a little forward-looking extra purchases of things we would have bought at some point, just to have a little extra on hand presently (so that we don't have to dip into our actual "emergency preparations.")

It's surprising how little some people are aware of world events. My wife relies on me to know what's going on in the world and most of her friends don't really follow the news.






1: I'm aware we have several members who aren't "otherwise healthy", but I don't think they are panicking either. They just have a different risk structure and should take even more care to prevent infection.

[Ben]

Well, one irritating tangential of a "just affects Ben" nature: With a somewhat mild Winter here, I'm needing to start spraying for weeds and whatnot, and don't have spare filters for my half mask. The 3M vapor cartridges I use that normally cost $15, are either $100 or not available. Idiots are now buying out organic vapor and acid respirators. I guess I'll need to use last year's cartridges, hope they're still good, and pick a day with some light wind.

Gotta wonder how many people that do stuff for a living that requires respiratory protection are SOL if they need replacement equipment right now.

[Ben]

As most of us also tend to be ready for emergency events, this is a "mini-prep" and all it took us was to do a little forward-looking extra purchases of things we would have bought at some point, just to have a little extra on hand presently (so that we don't have to dip into our actual "emergency preparations.")

Yup, that's certainly where I was. Rather than possibly needing to dip into the "real SHTF stores", I bought steak and other stuff for the freezer, and made sure I had extra convenience stuff like paper towels and TP*, and water softener salt and other things that aren't critical, but would be a nuisance to be without if I decided I didn't want to be around people for a while, or else were everyday things (that the linked article above verified) that people were going to panic buy.

* I have always kept loads of Costco sized TP packages around in the belief that they will make me a wealthy post-apocalyptic Warlord.  

[Fly320s]

TP, booze, cigarettes/tobacco are easily stored and traded/sold after the Bugaloo starts.

[MechAg94]

We tend to be more aware of what's going on in the world as that is one of our hobbies. (As evidenced by our discussions here.)

I don't think any of use were panicking- the risk to otherwise healthy people from this virus is fairly small.¹ As my biggest concern is my children, I was relieved to read how coronavirii tend not to be dangerous to young children.

As most of us also tend to be ready for emergency events, this is a "mini-prep" and all it took us was to do a little forward-looking extra purchases of things we would have bought at some point, just to have a little extra on hand presently (so that we don't have to dip into our actual "emergency preparations.")

It's surprising how little some people are aware of world events. My wife relies on me to know what's going on in the world and most of her friends don't really follow the news.






1: I'm aware we have several members who aren't "otherwise healthy", but I don't think they are panicking either. They just have a different risk structure and should take even more care to prevent infection.

When it comes to news, I mostly get it from my twitter feed, talk radio, here, and occasionally news headline sites.  I stopped watching TV news of any kind years ago.  I check the weather report occasionally, but that's it.  With the constant liberal spin, 'if-it-bleeds-it-leads' reporting, and the "sob story of the day", I found it was just depressing.  

[MechAg94]

Yup, that's certainly where I was. Rather than possibly needing to dip into the "real SHTF stores", I bought steak and other stuff for the freezer, and made sure I had extra convenience stuff like paper towels and TP*, and water softener salt and other things that aren't critical, but would be a nuisance to be without if I decided I didn't want to be around people for a while, or else were everyday things (that the linked article above verified) that people were going to panic buy.

* I have always kept loads of Costco sized TP packages around in the belief that they will make me a wealthy post-apocalyptic Warlord.  

I have a short list at home of stuff I forgot to get last time like peanut butter and extra bread.  I don't have any steaks.  Thanks for the reminder.  Add that to my list.

[makattak]

I have a short list at home of stuff I forgot to get last time like peanut butter and extra bread.  I don't have any steaks.  Thanks for the reminder.  Add that to my list.

Jelly! I think we only have about 1/3 of a jar of jelly left.¹ Added to the list.




1: Of the kids' jelly. We have almost a full jar of some very good blackberry preserves, but that's not going on PB&Js.

[MillCreek]

So one of the Washingtons state residents who is identified as having COVID-19 was in one of my clinics last week with respiratory symptoms.  Guess where I am this morning, along with reps from the local and State health departments.

[cordex]

So one of the Washingtons state residents who is identified as having COVID-19 was in one of my clinics last week with respiratory symptoms.  Guess where I am this morning, along with reps from the local and State health departments.

The Mormon home storage center?

[DittoHead]

Guess where I am this morning, along with reps from the local and State health departments.

Out and about, sharing the virus far and wide?

[charby]

Locally owned AOR radio station has been announcing every 30 minutes to stock up on food and sanitation/hygiene supplies to make through 2-3 weeks. Rational is if you're sick, you can stay home.

[charby]

Well, one irritating tangential of a "just affects Ben" nature: With a somewhat mild Winter here, I'm needing to start spraying for weeds and whatnot, and don't have spare filters for my half mask. The 3M vapor cartridges I use that normally cost $15, are either $100 or not available. Idiots are now buying out organic vapor and acid respirators. I guess I'll need to use last year's cartridges, hope they're still good, and pick a day with some light wind.

Gotta wonder how many people that do stuff for a living that requires respiratory protection are SOL if they need replacement equipment right now.

What are you spraying that requires a respirator?

[Ben]

What are you spraying that requires a respirator?

Nothing that requires one, but I'm super paranoid about breathing crap in. Just Roundup and Crossbow right now. I even wear a respirator (just a paper N95) when I use the leaf blower.

[charby]

Nothing that requires one, but I'm super paranoid about breathing crap in. Just Roundup and Crossbow right now. I even wear a respirator (just a paper N95) when I use the leaf blower.

Gotcha

[MechAg94]

IMO, it is not a bad idea to avoid unnecessary exposure to any of the "harmless" chemicals we use in the house or out in the yard/land. 

[Ben]

A couple of interesting snippets heard on the business news this morning:

A discussion panel composed of epidemiologists and other experts were making the case that the lack of information and misinformation coming out of China were not all China's fault, but that much of the blame is squarely in WHO's domain. Apparently they have been really bad about information handling, and one of the WHO bigwigs happens to also be /have been a bigwig in the Chinese government.

Another discussion about people being smart and teleworking got me to thinking about what this virus might have looked at 30 years ago. I have no idea on numbers, but certainly a good part of the modern workforce can easily telecommute without much economic or operational effect for them or their employer. Without that current ability, I wonder how much farther the virus might have spread?

[Fly320s]

30 years ago we didn't have the world connected by air travel that could take a person around the globe in 24 hours. Nor did we have hundreds of cargo ships delivering rubber dog *expletive deleted*it from Hong Kong.

[Ben]

Also just heard on the news: In Iran, a religious ceremony is going on right now that requires pilgrims to kiss and lick some shrine. And they're doing it.