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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #975 on: March 16, 2020, 11:42:50 AM »
And here's one reason why

Ohio jail to release hundreds of inmates amid coronavirus concerns: reports
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ohio-jail-releases-hundreds-inmates-coronavirus

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The list included older inmates and those with chronic illness and a history of respiratory issues, which are factors identified by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that make someone more vulnerable to serious complications and death from the coronavirus.
Prisoner safety or avoiding treatment costs?
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #976 on: March 16, 2020, 11:55:19 AM »
Well my work says keep working and if you can’t work then use PTO and short term disability (60% of normal pay) and just wash your hands and stay away from people
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #977 on: March 16, 2020, 11:55:37 AM »
Well crap

Beshear orders Ky. bars and restaurants to close dine-in services
https://www.wdrb.com/news/beshear-orders-ky-bars-and-restaurants-to-close-dine-in/article_ef1eb27a-678a-11ea-8ad8-eb7927ad966a.html

Just read an article saying the governors of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut have done the same. Take out only. Bars that don't serve food are closed, period.

Gotta wonder why it took them so long ...
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #978 on: March 16, 2020, 11:56:24 AM »
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A former chair of the Council of Economic Advisers during the 2008 financial crisis under President Obama is urging Congress to provide a strong rescue package – including a one-time payment of $1,000 to every American adult and $500 for every child – to help cope with the fallout of the coronavirus, a report said.
What says the hivemind on matter, good, bad or....?

Down further he does show a bit of common sense
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“The financial crisis occurred because the underpinning of the economy was bad, they say, but this is a temporary situation and eventually things will go back to normal,” he added.

Ex-Obama adviser says government should give American adults $1G, every child $500
https://www.foxnews.com/us/amid-coronavirus-fight-ex-obama-adviser-says-govt-should-give-every-american-1g
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #979 on: March 16, 2020, 12:00:55 PM »
What says the hivemind on matter, good, bad or....?


Does Bill Gates really need $1,000?

The people who need financial help are the people whose lives and jobs are being disrupted. I do think the government should provide some assistance, but it should be directed to the people who are losing their incomes from this thing. Welfare stay-at-homes will still get their checks; they don't need anything extra. People who can't work because their business has been shut down (like restaurant workers) should be able to collect emergency unemployment compensation to carry them through the emergency.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #980 on: March 16, 2020, 12:16:07 PM »
My wife and I don't need a thousand dollars each from the Government. We would just put it in the bank.  If such a program is implemented, we would want it to go to people in actual need.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #981 on: March 16, 2020, 12:30:03 PM »
Was just nosing around on amazon and most prime items show Sat or later for delivery for me.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #982 on: March 16, 2020, 12:36:22 PM »
Was just nosing around on amazon and most prime items show Sat or later for delivery for me.

I'm seeing the same thing.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #983 on: March 16, 2020, 12:40:10 PM »
Just hit the local Giant. Shocked that the salad bar is still open, but good for me because that's my lunch.

Shelves are better stocks. Still very little meat, but more meat than there was on Friday.

Milk, eggs, and cheese are back.

Some potatoes, but still no onions, damn it.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #984 on: March 16, 2020, 12:40:31 PM »
On the sgammo.com home page:

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #985 on: March 16, 2020, 01:27:05 PM »
My short term disability has been extended to 4/13/20. From talking with a co-worker I'm wondering if some small part of that is due to the company trying to get everyone that can work from home to do so. Of course the Dr saying it is necessary is probably the main reason but I'm not going to fight it.
For good or bad my job is hands on and can't be telecommute. Hard to actually physically install a 400G fiber circuit from home.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #986 on: March 16, 2020, 01:31:14 PM »
French docs say don't take NSAIDS:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/health-experts-criticise-nhs-advice-to-take-ibuprofen-for-covid-19

There is some disagreement on acetaminophen.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #987 on: March 16, 2020, 02:29:10 PM »
French docs say don't take NSAIDS:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/health-experts-criticise-nhs-advice-to-take-ibuprofen-for-covid-19

There is some disagreement on acetaminophen.

I read something about that earlier.... really good to know, because the big jar of ibuprofen is always my first stop when something hurts, and something usually does hurt.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #988 on: March 16, 2020, 02:35:33 PM »
Canada just closed its borders to non citizens; Americans not included in the ban.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #989 on: March 16, 2020, 02:38:28 PM »
Canada just closed its borders to non citizens; Americans not included in the ban.

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #990 on: March 16, 2020, 02:45:08 PM »
Canada just closed its borders to non citizens; Americans not included in the ban.

That could get frustrating for Alaskans, for sure, if they closed Yukon/BC to Alaskan US traffic.

I worry about state level quarantines.  In High School, I lived in Walla Walla, WA.  I worked for a vegetable cannery in Milton-Freewater, OR, for the summers.  Probably half the cannery staff and ag job workforce came from north of the OR border.  Pretty common for cross-border employment in lots of places, and cross-border supply systems.  Milton-Freewater didn't have Costco or Walmart, but Walla Walla did.  Lewiston/Clarkston are very tightly integrated on the WA/ID border.  Lots of places like that scattered around the US.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #991 on: March 16, 2020, 03:25:44 PM »
French docs say don't take NSAIDS:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/health-experts-criticise-nhs-advice-to-take-ibuprofen-for-covid-19

There is some disagreement on acetaminophen.

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #992 on: March 16, 2020, 03:26:57 PM »
That could get frustrating for Alaskans, for sure, if they closed Yukon/BC to Alaskan US traffic.

I worry about state level quarantines.  In High School, I lived in Walla Walla, WA.  I worked for a vegetable cannery in Milton-Freewater, OR, for the summers.  Probably half the cannery staff and ag job workforce came from north of the OR border.  Pretty common for cross-border employment in lots of places, and cross-border supply systems.  Milton-Freewater didn't have Costco or Walmart, but Walla Walla did.  Lewiston/Clarkston are very tightly integrated on the WA/ID border.  Lots of places like that scattered around the US.
This is an issue here in Europe as well. Plenty of people who live in one country and work in a neighboring country. Swedes working in Denmark, Germans working in Austria and Switzerland are common examples. Apparently, while the borders are closed now, they made exceptions for cross border workers. Swedes are still commuting to Copenhagen, and Germans are still working in Switzerland.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #993 on: March 16, 2020, 03:33:34 PM »
Is it ok to freeze these things in the freezer? I have a lot of freezer space, but I don't know if it's even beneficial:

beans
potatoes
rice
flour
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #994 on: March 16, 2020, 03:33:39 PM »
https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/16/mexico-is-dangerously-unprepared-for-the-inevitable-wuhan-coronavirus-outbreak/

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #995 on: March 16, 2020, 03:38:02 PM »
Is it ok to freeze these things in the freezer? I have a lot of freezer space, but I don't know if it's even beneficial:

beans
potatoes
rice
flour


I would think rice and uncooked beans would be fine. Flour for sure, I used to freeze it all the time. Potatoes if you cooked them first should freeze just fine, then used them for mashed or some other dish that doesn't need whole potatoes. That my thoughts anyhow.

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #996 on: March 16, 2020, 03:50:06 PM »
beans
potatoes
rice
flour
Raw potatoes don't freeze well, but I've heard of freezing cooked or partially cooked potatoes.

How long are you planning on keeping the rice, beans, and flour?  Refined flour will keep for a couple years without freezing.  Whole grain goes rancid faster but freezing would likely help. 

Dry white rice and dry beans can store for 25-30 years without freezing.  Other varieties of rice may not keep as long, but still much longer than I expect this particular event to last.

If you've got extra freezer space I'd either fill it with things that make sense to freeze or bottles of water.

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« Reply #997 on: March 16, 2020, 04:05:00 PM »
Raw potatoes don't freeze well, but I've heard of freezing cooked or partially cooked potatoes.

How long are you planning on keeping the rice, beans, and flour?  Refined flour will keep for a couple years without freezing.  Whole grain goes rancid faster but freezing would likely help. 

Dry white rice and dry beans can store for 25-30 years without freezing.  Other varieties of rice may not keep as long, but still much longer than I expect this particular event to last.

If you've got extra freezer space I'd either fill it with things that make sense to freeze or bottles of water.

I talked my ex-wife through opening the preps I had left behind from divorce 5 years ago this weekend (In case quarantine and the kids got stuck there). She opened sealed buckets that I made up 10 years ago, everything was fine except jars of apple sauce. The bulk of it was dried beans/enriched white rice.
She has enough food to last several months with the kids there, yet she still wouldn't stop freaking out.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #998 on: March 16, 2020, 04:38:37 PM »
Is it ok to freeze these things in the freezer? I have a lot of freezer space, but I don't know if it's even beneficial:

beans
potatoes
rice
flour


No, assuming the beans are not fresh beans.  Everything but the potatoes has an extremely long shelf life (several years, but after a year the beans take a lot longer to cook)  Potatoes just have a kinda long life.   The freezer will ruin the potatoes, although they will still be edible.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #999 on: March 16, 2020, 04:46:10 PM »
France is closing down, essentially, for 15 days.

I think things are going to get pretty bad in the US as far as food and supplies are concerned.
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