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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #625 on: July 20, 2021, 09:43:55 AM »

Do any of you remember when the building got bombed? I think it was twice. Not by Trump supporters. IIRC Clinton pardoned one.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/07/bomb-explodes-in-us-capitol-nov-7-1983-244578

The article ascribes "retaliation for the recent U.S. military actions in Grenada and Lebanon" as the motive.
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #626 on: July 26, 2021, 07:51:52 PM »

You can't make this stuff up but they seem to have no problem in doing so

Thread shows that Black Lives Matter protests weren’t superspreader events, but the Capitol riot was
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/07/26/thread-shows-that-black-lives-matter-protests-werent-superspreader-events-but-the-capitol-riot-was/
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #627 on: July 26, 2021, 09:57:41 PM »

I'm sure Representative Scalise still has nightmares about 1/6. Until then, he'd always felt perfectly safe...
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #628 on: July 27, 2021, 07:35:10 PM »

Well, the 06JAN "committee" is going about as I'd expect considering who is on it:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jan-6-commission-hearing-cops-trump-republicans-capitol-attack

I saw one of the committee "republicans" cried during testimony.


In the meantime, contrary to Pelosi's statement, a few things worse than 06JAN:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/07/27/the-violent-domestic-attack-of-january-6-was-not-the-worst-assault-on-the-capitol-since-the-war-of-1812/
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #629 on: July 27, 2021, 08:22:09 PM »

Can the Agriculture Commissioner do this?

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Florida Democratic official suspends concealed carry permits for 22 people tied to Capitol riot

Florida Agriculture Commissioner Nikki Fried moved on Tuesday to suspend the concealed carry licenses of 22 people charged in connection to the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol.

“The deeply disturbing events that occurred at our nation’s Capitol on January 6th were sedition, treason, and domestic terrorism – and those individuals involved in the insurrection must be held accountable for attempting to subvert our democratic process,” Fried said in a statement.

Fried’s office did not specify which individuals would have their concealed carry licenses suspended, but so far, dozens of Floridians have been arrested in connection with the riot.

Florida’s Nikki Fried Unilaterally Suspends 22 Florida CCW Licenses Over January 6th Protest
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/floridas-nikki-fried-unilaterally-suspends-22-florida-ccw-licenses-over-january-6th-protest/
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #630 on: July 27, 2021, 08:59:45 PM »

Can the Agriculture Commissioner do this?

Florida’s Nikki Fried Unilaterally Suspends 22 Florida CCW Licenses Over January 6th Protest
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/floridas-nikki-fried-unilaterally-suspends-22-florida-ccw-licenses-over-january-6th-protest/

Charged, not convicted, so the old, "guilty until proven innocent" thing again. Even if guilty, I guess it would depend on Florida law, but can you lose your permit over a trespassing misdemeanor?
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #631 on: July 27, 2021, 09:05:59 PM »

Well, the 06JAN "committee" is going about as I'd expect considering who is on it:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jan-6-commission-hearing-cops-trump-republicans-capitol-attack

I saw one of the committee "republicans" cried during testimony.


I wonder if it's an accident that TWO photos of one of the cops labels him a sergeant in the captions, while buried in the article he is identified (TWICE) as a Private First Class.

Poor Private Dunn. Such unbridled violence!

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U.S. Capitol Police (USCP) Private First Class Harry Dunn talked about how the attackers hurled the N-word at him.

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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #632 on: July 27, 2021, 09:13:48 PM »

Can the Agriculture Commissioner do this?

I wondered the same thing.  Due process aside, I would have assumed that revocation would be the bailiwick of the issuing authority.
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #633 on: July 27, 2021, 09:31:29 PM »

I wondered the same thing.  Due process aside, I would have assumed that revocation would be the bailiwick of the issuing authority.

I don't have a FL non-resident anymore, but IIRC, carry permits are processed through the ag department there.
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #634 on: July 27, 2021, 09:45:58 PM »

I don't have a FL non-resident anymore, but IIRC, carry permits are processed through the ag department there.

They are.  Mrs. Fried is the issuing authority for FL CCW permits, so without doing a bunch of digging, I suspect she can suspend them pretty easily given the criminal charges.  If they hold fast, don't plead, and are acquitted, they would likely see their licenses reinstated.

I confess I'm getting pretty sick of folks acting like a riot is the worst thing ever just because they disagree with it.  Not only is it infuriating on soundbites and the internet, the over the top rhetoric breeds the attitude that the next riot might as well actually be an insurrection.  there's nothing to lose.

Gods know what these narcissists would label something like the Whiskey Rebellion or the Bonus Army these days.

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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #635 on: July 27, 2021, 10:36:51 PM »

Ok, thanks for the info.  Kind of silly of me thinking the way the government laid out the system would be logical, I should have known better.
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #636 on: July 27, 2021, 10:54:09 PM »

It's because FL treats a CCW like a hunting or fishing license.

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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #637 on: Today at 10:10:56 AM »

A couple of stories:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/politics/capitol-insurrection-guns-stockpile-fired-cop/index.html

Okay, this guy was a knucklehead and should have been laying low (and when will people learn to stay off the social media?). But... "guns bought over the internet", plus all sorts of other stuff that likely isn't true. I'm unsure how much of that is reporting vs authorities manipulating things. Like I see what are very likely dummy grenades in the photo, and am wondering if "bomb making material" is Tannerite or something. Again, guy is a knucklehead, but this illustrates how media manipulation could turn anyone into a terrorist.


https://techcrunch.com/2021/07/26/court-orders-us-capitol-rioter-to-unlock-his-laptop-with-his-face/

They sort of explain why technically it's not self incrimination, but this sure sounds like forced self-incrimination to me.

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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #638 on: Today at 11:01:47 AM »

There is that question on the 4473 asking if you are under indictment.  I guess they are choosing to go after him on that when they won't for others.  Reminds me that I think failure to prosecute others under the same law should be a defense to prosecution. 

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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #639 on: Today at 11:04:06 AM »

A couple of stories:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/politics/capitol-insurrection-guns-stockpile-fired-cop/index.html

Okay, this guy was a knucklehead and should have been laying low (and when will people learn to stay off the social media?). But... "guns bought over the internet", plus all sorts of other stuff that likely isn't true. I'm unsure how much of that is reporting vs authorities manipulating things. Like I see what are very likely dummy grenades in the photo, and am wondering if "bomb making material" is Tannerite or something. Again, guy is a knucklehead, but this illustrates how media manipulation could turn anyone into a terrorist.

It's really hard to tell what's going on with this guy.  He may well be a bozo.  However, given CNN's proclivity for piss poor reporting and just making things up rather than writing accurate news stories, I don't put much stock in their "journalism" about this issue.

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