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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #75 on: August 23, 2020, 05:34:56 PM »
I saw a video on the 'net by a woman who lives with her brother.  She is an R and her brother is a D.  They were sent mail in ballots and she showed the envelopes and and the ballots.  The return envelope for the ballot had a bar code on it.  Her envelope had a capital R in the bar code and her brother's had a capital D on his return envelope.  Since it was on the 'net who knows if it was true or not, but sure is food for thought.
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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #76 on: August 23, 2020, 05:35:48 PM »
I saw a video on the 'net by a woman who lives with her brother.  She is an R and her brother is a D.  They were sent mail in ballots and she showed the envelopes and and the ballots.  The return envelope for the ballot had a bar code on it.  Her envelope had a capital R in the bar code and her brother's had a capital D on his return envelope.  Since it was on the 'net who knows if it was true or not, but sure is food for thought.

This says it was a primary ballot?

https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/verify/verify-are-presidential-ballot-envelopes-marked-with-your-political-affiliation-san-diego/509-deccd089-ab5e-4035-89f1-d903bb45e72d
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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #77 on: August 23, 2020, 05:40:32 PM »
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/19/palm.

Women’s video claiming ballot envelopes disclose party ...
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08/20/womens..

It is claimed by Snopes that this was accurate, but for the primary.  Snopes claims that the national election this wouldn't occur...snicker.
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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #78 on: August 23, 2020, 05:46:24 PM »
To me, voting is THE most important occurrence in our Republic.  It should be guarded like nothing else.  It is also voluntary.  If you can't get off your dead, lazy ass to vote in such a manner that shows you are actually eligible to vote, and then do so, then I don't give a rat's ass about you or what you think about the process.

The cavalier way the Democrat Party treats this national honor, disqualifies them from my consideration of anything they propose and further makes that political party a danger to our Republic.
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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #79 on: August 23, 2020, 05:51:55 PM »
In my election district in NC, we personally hand our filled out ballot to one of the election workers.  That worker then runs the ballot through the electronic counting machine while the voter is standing next to them.  That leaves little doubt for the voter that their ballot was properly tallied.
Contrast that to vote by mail systems like Oregon has used for many years.  A voter has no idea whether their ballot was properly tallied.  Voters have to trust that their ballot is not going to be cherry picked from the system by an unscrupulous government worker that does not approve of how they voted.
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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #80 on: August 23, 2020, 07:38:54 PM »
In my election district in NC, we personally hand our filled out ballot to one of the election workers.  That worker then runs the ballot through the electronic counting machine while the voter is standing next to them.  That leaves little doubt for the voter that their ballot was properly tallied.


Unless the software running the machine has been "optimized."

Cue Jim March and his battles against Diebold several years ago.
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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #81 on: August 23, 2020, 08:03:04 PM »
Unless the software running the machine has been "optimized."

Cue Jim March and his battles against Diebold several years ago.

Those were electronic touchscreen voting machines, not paper ballot tally machines.
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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #82 on: August 23, 2020, 09:32:20 PM »
Unless the software running the machine has been "optimized."

Cue Jim March and his battles against Diebold several years ago.

I've often wondered what happened to Jim March.  The last I knew he bought a motor home and was traveling around.  I wonder if he is still upright and breathing air.
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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #83 on: August 23, 2020, 09:36:13 PM »
As far as I am concerned absentee ballots and early voting cures any question about the “COVID Risk”.

Mass mail in ballots are plainly an attempt at mass fraud, and I don’t mean fraud by the Republicans but by the party that is famous for delaying military ballots and finding “crates of absentee ballots in the trunks of cars”
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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #84 on: August 23, 2020, 09:46:46 PM »
I've often wondered what happened to Jim March.  The last I knew he bought a motor home and was traveling around.  I wonder if he is still upright and breathing air.

Hopefully.  He hasn't posted on TFL in 3 years.
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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #85 on: August 24, 2020, 12:19:58 AM »
To me, voting is THE most important occurrence in our Republic.  It should be guarded like nothing else.  It is also voluntary.  If you can't get off your dead, lazy ass to vote in such a manner that shows you are actually eligible to vote, and then do so, then I don't give a rat's ass about you or what you think about the process.

The cavalier way the Democrat Party treats this national honor, disqualifies them from my consideration of anything they propose and further makes that political party a danger to our Republic.

That is why I also think you should have to re-register every few years at a govt office with valid ID.  I can't think of an honest reason why we wouldn't want to purge the voters rolls periodically. 
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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #87 on: August 24, 2020, 05:42:58 PM »
That is why I also think you should have to re-register every few years at a govt office with valid ID.  I can't think of an honest reason why we wouldn't want to purge the voters rolls periodically. 

Every census at least.

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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #89 on: September 01, 2020, 07:17:00 PM »
From Axios: Trump will "appear" to win big on election night, but will lose weeks later after all the mail in ballots are counted. Hmm.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/09/01/heres-the-pre-warning-democratic-data-firm-says-it-might-appear-as-though-president-trump-is-winning-big-on-election-night/
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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #90 on: September 01, 2020, 10:54:23 PM »
From Axios: Trump will "appear" to win big on election night, but will lose weeks later after all the mail in ballots are counted. Hmm.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/09/01/heres-the-pre-warning-democratic-data-firm-says-it-might-appear-as-though-president-trump-is-winning-big-on-election-night/

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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #91 on: September 02, 2020, 12:03:48 AM »
So how do they do the fraud in states that don't do mail in voting?  Might be more difficult to do that with absentee ballots.

Also, why is this coming out now if it was going to happen? 
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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #92 on: September 02, 2020, 12:10:39 AM »
So how do they do the fraud in states that don't do mail in voting?  Might be more difficult to do that with absentee ballots.

Also, why is this coming out now if it was going to happen? 

1) Lack of mail in ballots hasn't stopped massive fraud before (see, 1960 presidential election and Chicago/Texas)

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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #93 on: September 02, 2020, 09:48:58 AM »
From Axios: Trump will "appear" to win big on election night, but will lose weeks later after all the mail in ballots are counted. Hmm.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/09/01/heres-the-pre-warning-democratic-data-firm-says-it-might-appear-as-though-president-trump-is-winning-big-on-election-night/

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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #94 on: September 02, 2020, 10:03:42 AM »
Personally, I think the only thing they might get out of the Axios reported thing is two months later, something like 51% of the popular vote (mostly from California again), then once again, cue the attack on the Electoral College.
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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #95 on: September 02, 2020, 03:04:31 PM »
It might be interesting.  If it ends up in the federal courts, the 9th circuit isn't what it was 4 years ago, or even 2 years ago. 
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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #96 on: September 03, 2020, 08:33:53 AM »
I think Trump truly believes there is no such thing as bad publicity.
President Trump on Wednesday suggested supporters in North Carolina should illegally attempt to vote both by mail and in person, saying doing so would test the integrity of the system.
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« Reply #97 on: September 03, 2020, 09:16:45 AM »
I think Trump truly believes there is no such thing as bad publicity.

Trump knows the ONLY way the press will talk about that very danger of mail-in voting is if he brings it up.

That so many people don't understand how Trump works after 4 years of observing him is mind-boggling to me.
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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #98 on: September 03, 2020, 09:44:49 AM »
Trump knows the ONLY way the press will talk about that very danger of mail-in voting is if he brings it up.

That so many people don't understand how Trump works after 4 years of observing him is mind-boggling to me.

I don't watch the news or really listen to Trump- can you please explain?

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Re: Election fraud again.
« Reply #99 on: September 03, 2020, 09:50:42 AM »
I don't watch the news or really listen to Trump- can you please explain?
I think he's saying that the media has been pushing the value of universal mail in voting as a way to improve Democrat turnout, but if he says something positive about it or implies that it might be used fraudulently to improve Republican turnout they will have to reflexively reject it.