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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2020, 07:38:06 PM »
In case you missed it, a few years ago Wayne and his lackeys revised the by-laws, making it virtually impossible for the membership to have any control over their own organization.

On the other hand, the membership could have staged a mass revolt, and canceled our memberships until LaPierre, et al, resigned. We did not do that.
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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2020, 11:22:19 PM »
In case you missed it, a few years ago Wayne and his lackeys revised the by-laws, making it virtually impossible for the membership to have any control over their own organization.
Yeah, I think they claimed "liberals" would try to join and elect gun grabbing board members so they had to make it difficult to kick out the leadership.
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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2020, 11:32:59 PM »
On the other hand, the membership could have staged a mass revolt, and canceled our memberships until LaPierre, et al, resigned. We did not do that.

Probably a safe bet to say 90% of the membership have zero idea of what's going on
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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2020, 01:27:41 AM »
Probably a safe bet to say 90% of the membership have zero idea of what's going on

Because those of us who did know failed to spread the word. Not that we didn't talk about it. I'm sure plenty of people did their part. But no major effort at "community organization" took place.
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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2020, 08:53:44 AM »
Probably a safe bet to say 90% of the membership have zero idea of what's going on
I have been an NRA member for probably 20 years.  I only actually voted in the last few years. 
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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2020, 11:18:24 AM »
When I was campaigning,  people often asked about my NRA membership.  Early on, I would mention G.O.A. and the problems with the leadership in the N.R.A., especially LaPierre.  I found that way too many people took my comments as an attack of 2A, and not an attack on corruption in the organization.  They either didn't know, or didn't care.
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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2020, 10:30:38 AM »
On the other hand, the membership could have staged a mass revolt, and canceled our memberships until LaPierre, et al, resigned. We did not do that.

Scare tactics work in many areas.  The NRA uses them liberally . . . .
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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2020, 02:27:16 PM »
On the other hand, the membership could have staged a mass revolt, and canceled our memberships until LaPierre, et al, resigned. We did not do that.

The NRA has lost a lot of members already.

Wayne still hasn't quit.

There is no reason to think he ever will no matter how much he damages the organization.

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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2020, 05:47:03 PM »
The NRA has lost a lot of members already.

Wayne still hasn't quit.

There is no reason to think he ever will no matter how much he damages the organization.


I think Wayne has no choice but to ride the NRA all the way to lithobraking;  if he steps down all the dirty laundry he has built up will be available for his replacement to air out and he can't let that happen.

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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2020, 06:01:57 PM »

I think Wayne has no choice but to ride the NRA all the way to lithobraking;  if he steps down all the dirty laundry he has built up will be available for his replacement to air out and he can't let that happen.

He could do the honorable thing and kill himself...
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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2020, 08:09:48 PM »
He could just claim to have dirt on Hillary.
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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2020, 09:17:54 PM »
He could do the honorable thing and kill himself...

This.

I still have a snarky response from some NRA drone after I asked to not get anymore begging for money emails.  They don't like it when you  refuse to donate another penny so long as Wayne is there.
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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2020, 11:44:52 PM »
He could do the honorable thing and kill himself...

If he was capable of the honorable thing he wouldn't be an embezzling shyster.

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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2020, 11:51:41 PM »
They don't like it when you  refuse to donate another penny so long as Wayne is there.

That's my usual response
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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2020, 09:43:05 AM »
Scare tactics work in many areas.  The NRA uses them liberally . . . .

Sadly enough, scare tactics aren't necessarily inaccurate... look at what the democrats have done to gun ownership in some states, and what they want to do nationwide.

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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2020, 11:21:05 AM »
It was scare tactics yesterday.
It's happening now.
At some point it will be history.  =(
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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2020, 12:05:01 PM »
Unfortunately I fear Wayne and his minions are so intertwined into the fabric of the NRA by now that the only way to get rid of them would be to burn the whole thing down.  Sorry, I'm rather pessimistic about the future of the NRA at this point, may have to start fresh with another organization. The NRA is really nothing but Wayne's personal blow up doll at this point.
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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2020, 12:19:22 PM »
Unfortunately I fear Wayne and his minions are so intertwined into the fabric of the NRA by now that the only way to get rid of them would be to burn the whole thing down.  Sorry, I'm rather pessimistic about the future of the NRA at this point, may have to start fresh with another organization. The NRA is really nothing but Wayne's personal blow up doll at this point.

Yeah, money that I've given the NRA in the past has now gone to the Idaho 2nd Amendment Alliance. They're kinda bulls in a china shop, similar to GOA, but they have done some good stuff on the state level, so I prefer my dough go there for the time being. The NRA, not counting the current kerfuffle, is still important though. We really need the DC presence that knows its way around the political sphere there. I just wish they would get their act together.
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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2020, 01:04:09 PM »
In NRA related news
Wonder how much NRA money went into this

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A federal appeals court Tuesday rejected arguments by prominent National Rifle Association lobbyist Marion Hammer in a lawsuit centered on graphic emails she received from a California attorney after the 2018 mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Broward County.

Marion Hammer Loses Suit Against Attorney Who Sent Graphic Gunshot Photos
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/marion-hammer-loses-suit-against-attorney-who-sent-graphic-gunshot-photos/
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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2020, 05:45:10 PM »
Unfortunately I fear Wayne and his minions are so intertwined into the fabric of the NRA by now that the only way to get rid of them would be to burn the whole thing down.  Sorry, I'm rather pessimistic about the future of the NRA at this point, may have to start fresh with another organization. The NRA is really nothing but Wayne's personal blow up doll at this point.

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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2020, 02:15:09 PM »
Idaho 2nd Amendment Alliance is part of the Dorr family of groups. I've heard good things about a few of their offshoots, but most are scummy from top to bottom and just swindle people out of their money. They fought against the pro gun bills in Iowa until they passed and then took credit for it. They tried to derail the suppressor legalization in MN and have been fighting against the 2nd amendment sanctuary movement in several counties. In MN they slander everyone and only attack pro gun reps and a few of the untouchable anti gun dems.
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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #46 on: August 22, 2020, 01:43:43 PM »
Probably a safe bet to say 90% of the membership have zero idea of what's going on

I'm a life member and gave up years ago trying to figure it all out, being life means i have a vote and the magazine gets sent somewhere i can't even recall.
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I had been planning on taking part when I am better situated, at this late stage in the game I don't know if that will happen.
both with the NRA and myself, currently my thinking is i will contribute to calguns/s.a.f/ and what ever team Alan Gura and Oleg Volk is working for.

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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #47 on: August 22, 2020, 03:14:12 PM »
My membership is current, but I always considered that as support for their non political activities. I never give money too their political entity. For that I have membership with the VDCL and GOA.

So basically, this is an attack on the actual *expletive deleted*it I support the NRA for (youth groups, training, competitive events, gun safety education)
I wish it was a legit attack in Wayne, then I'd say go for it, but since I know it's not, screw NY.
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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #48 on: August 22, 2020, 06:30:34 PM »
This.

I still have a snarky response from some NRA drone after I asked to not get anymore begging for money emails.  They don't like it when you  refuse to donate another penny so long as Wayne is there.

I heard a while back that the company who does the phone calls paid the NRA a fixed amount for the year and then keeps all or most of the money they collect.  Could be wrong, but it was what I heard.
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Re: Oh boy, this is going to be interesting... NY AG seeks to dissolve NRA
« Reply #49 on: August 22, 2020, 11:28:46 PM »
I heard a while back that the company who does the phone calls paid the NRA a fixed amount for the year and then keeps all or most of the money they collect.  Could be wrong, but it was what I heard.

That just makes it even worse.

It's a bad time for this to happen,  but I almost think the NRA as an entity could benefit from being burned down and rebuilt, the more I hear about it's internal dealings.  The member base isn't going anywhere, hell, maybe this IS the year to torch it.  Right now, before the election.  Should rile up the Fudds and normies.
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