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Re: Snatch and grab the Michigan governor
« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2020, 12:33:09 PM »
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/16/michigan-bans-gun-open-carry-at-election-day-polling-places-after-whitmer-kidnap-plot.html

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Michigan’s secretary of state banned the open carry of guns at polling places and other official voting locations on Election Day in the state.

The move comes on the heels of arrests related to an alleged plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. Fourteen men charged in the cases have ties to militia groups, officials say.

Would someone familiar with Michigan law please enlighten me: does the Secretary of State have that authority?
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Re: Snatch and grab the Michigan governor
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2020, 12:02:35 PM »
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/16/michigan-bans-gun-open-carry-at-election-day-polling-places-after-whitmer-kidnap-plot.html

Would someone familiar with Michigan law please enlighten me: does the Secretary of State have that authority?


Pretty certain it's already illegal to carry in a polling place.  Making it double-secret-illegaler isn't going to change much.
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Re: Snatch and grab the Michigan governor
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2020, 12:12:01 PM »
Pretty certain it's already illegal to carry in a polling place.  Making it double-secret-illegaler isn't going to change much.

Like hate crime laws?
Already was/is illegal to beat someone up or murder them but for some reason it makes some people feel better to make it double illegal if race/gender/feelings are involved
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Re: Snatch and grab the Michigan governor
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2020, 12:26:19 PM »
Like hate crime laws?
Already was/is illegal to beat someone up or murder them but for some reason it makes some people feel better to make it double illegal if race/gender/feelings are involved

Since we know that everything anybody does is being recorded by someone, somewhere, today, obviously this just means if/when you decide to beat the crap out of some idjit who roundly deserves it it's important to loudly state for the record -- several times -- that you are administering an equal opportunity beat-down and that you do not discriminate on the basis of age, sex, gender orientation, race, color, religion, ethnicity, political affiliation, or phase of the moon.
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Re: Snatch and grab the Michigan governor
« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2020, 12:31:10 PM »
Pretty certain it's already illegal to carry in a polling place.  Making it double-secret-illegaler isn't going to change much.

I wonder about that.  The specific voting rules are controlled by the state and the voting location will probably be in a city owned or state owned building.  The only thing the federal government does is require an election.

Based on that, I don't know how fedgov has the authority to ban guns in a polling place.
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Re: Snatch and grab the Michigan governor
« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2020, 12:34:08 PM »
To add to my last post, NH does not prohibit carrying firearms into a polling place.

When I went to look for a federal restriction on guns in polling places, I found this piece of anti-gun drivel that says the state is responsible for controlling guns in polling places.  https://www.csgv.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/CSGV-GunsAtThePolls-X.pdf

The NY Times agrees with the above PDF.  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/us/elections/its-legal-to-bring-guns-to-polling-places-in-five-battleground-states-a-new-study-says.html
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Re: Snatch and grab the Michigan governor
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2020, 03:31:57 PM »
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Re: Snatch and grab the Michigan governor
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2022, 03:38:43 PM »
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    BREAKING: Jurors acquitted two defendants of conspiracy to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in 2020 but couldn't agree on a verdict for two others. https://t.co/w1N9AvPOpH

    — The Associated Press (@AP) April 8, 2022

‘Stunning defeat for the government’: 2 men acquitted of plotting to kidnap Mich. Gov. Whitmer, hung jury on 2 others
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/04/08/stunning-defeat-for-the-government-2-men-acquitted-of-plotting-to-kidnap-mich-gov-whitmer-hung-jury-on-2-others/
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Re: Snatch and grab the Michigan governor
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2022, 03:40:57 PM »
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‘Stunning defeat for the government’: 2 men acquitted of plotting to kidnap Mich. Gov. Whitmer, hung jury on 2 others
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/04/08/stunning-defeat-for-the-government-2-men-acquitted-of-plotting-to-kidnap-mich-gov-whitmer-hung-jury-on-2-others/

Now they need to try the Fedbois that came up with the scheme in the first place.
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Re: Snatch and grab the Michigan governor
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2022, 04:12:15 PM »
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The only thing the federal government does is require an election.

I don't even think it has to be an election. As long as the rules are set by the state legislature, it could be by appointment or by drawing names from a hat. As far as I know.
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Re: Snatch and grab the Michigan governor
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2022, 09:13:13 PM »
Now they need to try the Fedbois that came up with the scheme in the first place.

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Re: Snatch and grab the Michigan governor
« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2022, 10:32:25 AM »
With Joy Reid everything is about race.
Never mind the fact that they were anti-Trump, anti-police anarchists they're still somehow racist right wing extremists

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    Unreal…so in America in the year of our Lord 2022, you can plot to kidnap a Democratic woman governor to stage a show trial and hurt her or worse, because you don’t like COVID restrictions and walk, as long as you’re a white, right wing extremist. Holy jury nullification, Batman https://t.co/vKIWIJCSfI

    — Joy-Ann (Pro-Democracy) Reid 😷 (@JoyAnnReid) April 8, 2022
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/04/09/joy-reid-not-happy-nobody-was-convicted-of-plotting-to-kidnap-mich-gov-whitmer/
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Re: Snatch and grab the Michigan governor
« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2022, 11:47:44 AM »
From what I've seen and read so far, there were more government people involved (undercover agents, informants, etc.) than actual accused conspirators.

How many Federal agents need to become part of a group before it can be considered an actual government agency?
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Re: Snatch and grab the Michigan governor
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2022, 10:21:49 AM »
Now they need to try the Fedbois that came up with the scheme in the first place.

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    Is Gretchen Whitmer mad at the FBI for creating, organizing, financing and overseeing a plot to kidnap her?

    — Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) April 12, 2022
Glenn Greenwald has a question for Mich. Gov. Gretchen Whitmer
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/04/13/glenn-greenwald-has-a-question-for-mich-gov-gretchen-whitmer/
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