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Voting fraud compendium
« on: November 04, 2020, 06:27:11 PM »

Here, we list observations or theories of voter fraud or election rigging. Then we can discuss if they are real, if there is any likely action possible, or we can just revel in the fail of it all. List the incident, verification status, importance to the election, and possible recours. Let me start:

Ballot curing in Georgia. Status: definitely a thing. See the link. Importance if true: unsure.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/11/04/team-joe-needs-people-to-go-door-to-door-in-georgia-to-help-voters-fix-their-mail-in-ballots-so-they-count/


Arizona finds 100,000 more ballots than voters. Status: rumor. Importance if true: extremely important.
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Re: Voting fraud compendium
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2020, 06:36:55 PM »

Normal turnout is in the 60% range. I know this is a banner year so 80's ok. Some p,aces are 90-100+%. That is not alright.
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Re: Voting fraud compendium
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2020, 06:41:03 PM »

Steve Cortes lays out why Trump will win Arizona.

https://mobile.twitter.com/CortesSteve/status/1324128709092192258

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Re: Voting fraud compendium
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2020, 06:41:39 PM »

Already posted in the other election thread:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/04/yes-democrats-are-trying-to-steal-the-election-in-michigan-wisconsin-and-pennsylvania/

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Then, something strange happened in the dead of the night. In both Michigan and Wisconsin, vote dumps early Wednesday morning showed 100 percent of the votes going for Biden and zero percent—that’s zero, so not even one vote—for Trump.

In Michigan, Biden somehow got 138,339 votes and Trump got none, zero, in an overnight vote-dump.

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In Pennsylvania, the Democratic scheme to steal the election is a bit different. Rather than vote dumps that impossibly go 100 percent to Biden, Pennsylvania is relying on the Democratic Secretary of State’s plan to count indisputably late mail-in ballots as though they were received on Election Day—even if they have no postmark.

(ETA: Ron beat me to it)

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Re: Voting fraud compendium
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2020, 09:06:38 PM »

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/11/04/fivethirtyeight-says-a-batch-of-23277-votes-in-philadelphia-has-been-reported-all-for-joe-biden/

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Two more batches of Pennsylvania vote were reported:
-23,277 votes in Philadelphia, all for Biden
-about 5,300 votes in Luzerne County, nearly 4,000 of which were for Biden
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Re: Voting fraud compendium
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2020, 04:18:22 AM »

https://mkecitywire.com/stories/564495243-analysis-seven-milwaukee-wards-report-more-2020-presidential-votes-than-registered-voters-biden-nets-146k-votes-in-city

Milwaukee records turnout never seen anywhere else in the country.

Nearly 90% and higher turnout throughout the majority of precincts. Some with over 100% turnout.
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Re: Voting fraud compendium
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2020, 04:32:24 AM »

Nearly 90% and higher turnout throughout the majority of precincts. Some with over 100% turnout.
Of course, as the article points out, WI does allow same-day registration.

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Re: Voting fraud compendium
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2020, 04:38:18 AM »

No idea the source or validity of this, but I saw it on another forum.
« Last Edit: November 05, 2020, 05:06:14 AM by cordex »

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Re: Voting fraud compendium
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2020, 04:53:44 AM »

No idea the source or validity of this, but I saw it on another forum.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/uFEc578.png[img]

This is where, if Republicans want to have any credibility at all, they need to be sure of what they post and promulgate on social media.  It's not hard to fact check most of this stuff, and spreading memes and incorrect data makes the more mainstream Republicans look like tin-foil hat conspiracy theorists, and will cause a lot of folks to dismiss all fraud claims out of hand.  The Glenn Beck effect, if you will.

PA has their counting progress online in a live dashboard here: https://www.votespa.com/About-Elections/Pages/Counting-Dashboard.aspx

As of 0751 EST 5 Nov Lancaster county PA is reporting 107,946 Mail-in and absentee ballots issues, 91,076 of those were cast, 78.61% or 71,596 of the cast ballots have been counted and 19,480 remain to be counted.

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Re: Voting fraud compendium
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2020, 05:06:45 AM »

Wife this am saw a blurb on one of the channels that showed a precinct in Detroit.  She said it was chaos;  papers lying all over the place and people walking around aimlessly.
To me the more troubling thing is half or better of those who voted seem to believe that socialism/communism with all the implications is preferable to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
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Re: Voting fraud compendium
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2020, 05:07:34 AM »

This is where, if Republicans want to have any credibility at all, they need to be sure of what they post and promulgate on social media.  It's not hard to fact check most of this stuff, and spreading memes and incorrect data makes the more mainstream Republicans look like tin-foil hat conspiracy theorists, and will cause a lot of folks to dismiss all fraud claims out of hand.  The Glenn Beck effect, if you will.

PA has their counting progress online in a live dashboard here: https://www.votespa.com/About-Elections/Pages/Counting-Dashboard.aspx

As of 0751 EST 5 Nov Lancaster county PA is reporting 107,946 Mail-in and absentee ballots issues, 91,076 of those were cast, 78.61% or 71,596 of the cast ballots have been counted and 19,480 remain to be counted.
Good point.

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Re: Voting fraud compendium
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2020, 05:13:33 AM »

spreading memes and incorrect data makes the more mainstream Republicans look like tin-foil hat conspiracy theorists, and will cause a lot of folks to dismiss all fraud claims out of hand.  The Glenn Beck effect, if you will.

Glenn Beck would be an upgrade, because right now it's this guy.
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Re: Voting fraud compendium
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2020, 06:29:39 AM »

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rumor-alert-biden-michigan-votes/

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janelytvynenko/election-rumors-debunked#125898666

https://factcheck.afp.com/human-error-michigan-county-vote-tally-sparks-claims-election-fraud

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/04/tweets/no-biden-did-not-receive-thousands-mysteriously-su/

Those 128,000 ballots in Michigan

Snopes says "false" but once again does so with their typical half-truths.

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More specifically, the error seems to stem from a typo regarding the vote count in Shiawassee County. The data should have stated that 15,371 votes had been counted in that county, not “153,710.” The error has since been corrected.

Okay, a typo created way more votes, but they still don't answer the remainder of the question - were the 15,371 votes all for Biden? Because it's not so much the numbers of votes, but that "found" batches of ballots after election day seem to be predominately, if not 100%,  for the dem candidate.

Perhaps it's because my normal news sources ignore it, but I have never seen this in reverse.  I would be truly interested in credible reporting showing that found ballots after election day, of any significant numbers, were 100% for the Republican presidential candidate.
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Re: Voting fraud compendium
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2020, 06:35:26 AM »

^This.

The whole episode is still suspicious, even if we accept the explanation of a typo multiplying the ballots by a factor of 10.

On a related note: why did the Detroit ballot counters cover up the windows?

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/11/04/ballot-counters-in-detroit-are-covering-up-windows-in-detroit-to-hide-their-process-n2579477

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Re: Voting fraud compendium
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2020, 06:46:00 AM »

Please fellow gun owners and fellow friends on the right, have faith in our elections, system and fact checkers.

There is nothing to see there, it was all above board and the voice of the people have spoken, they want Joe!

Do not be alarmed, your rights will be safe through the beautiful reset, don't be alarmed and remember ... orange man bad and only white nationalist rubes support him.

You're not a white nationalist rube are you?

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Re: Voting fraud compendium
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2020, 06:47:38 AM »

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rumor-alert-biden-michigan-votes/

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janelytvynenko/election-rumors-debunked#125898666

Those 128,000 ballots in Michigan
This kind of thing makes me really question whether the "real time results" are at all helpful. People clearly want them but then get so paranoid when they see the numbers changing, and it doesn't provide any information that's actually useful for the general public. Although people are so anxious and angry that counting is currently taking so long that just announcing a final number after a few days probably wouldn't be any better. People's time would be much better spent being actual, in person, election observers instead of watching graphs of incomplete counts and going nuts over typos.
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Re: Voting fraud compendium
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2020, 07:04:10 AM »

Here's another goodieL https://www.westernjournal.com/election-program-issue-tallied-2-votes-gop-candidate-33-mi-counties-thought-using-software/?fbclid=IwAR2EC_Q9J_BLtvjQiUp2hMjmBhLaFgNSazVrwIOx6A_6bxsXlIdGGfifXsU
Software issue only attributed 2 votes to the Republican Representative in one county, with the possibility of it affecting 33 other counties.

Weird how all of these "errors" always seem to be favoring one side.
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Re: Voting fraud compendium
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2020, 07:57:20 AM »

Stolen from another forum:

A system that has no problem printing currency without wealth will have no problem printing votes without voters.
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"We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics."
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Re: Voting fraud compendium
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2020, 12:48:48 PM »

Stolen from another forum:

A system that has no problem printing currency without wealth will have no problem printing votes without voters.


Amazingly poignant.

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Re: Voting fraud compendium
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2020, 02:38:57 AM »

I hope we have some lawyers that don't back down. A lot of  [tinfoil] stuff will be debunked to Glenn Beck the legit info. To me the improbable stuff is turnout surpassing electing the first black president or the first woman. I know population has grown and trump is satan, but still, for Biden there was that enthusiasm? Now as Georgia is stolen we have Biden with 100K more votes than either of the two senate races pulled for D candidates. So we are supposed to think that the most important election ever and they didn't want a Senate with Joementum? Come on man.
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