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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #550 on: March 15, 2021, 04:35:32 PM »

I try hard to see both sides of an issue.  Things wouldn't be "an issue" if there weren't multiple perspectives.

I have a hard time seeing any balance with how the capitol hill riots are being treated vs the routine riots that have gripped major US cities for the past year.

It's quite clear that legal force being applied much more heavily to protesters/rioters of one particular political ideology vs another.

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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #551 on: March 16, 2021, 03:27:37 PM »

On a related note someone asked me what was going on in Taiwan, something about some riots.
What does this have to do with Jan 6th you ask
Typed in "Taiwan riots 2021" in DuckDuckGo and stories about some protests over pork imports into Taiwan came up
Typed in "Taiwan riots 2021" in Google and after three pages of results that only had to do with the Jan 6 "insurrection" I found one on something going on in Taiwan from 2014.
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #552 on: March 31, 2021, 04:19:13 PM »

The two men charged in the Officer Sicknick death appear to be getting railroaded by the FBI.

If they don't have any other evidence other than what this article claims, then the two guys are innocent and should walk.

https://www.revolver.news/2021/03/new-york-times-sicknick-video-creates-big-problems-for-capitol-riot-prosecutors/
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #553 on: March 31, 2021, 04:55:05 PM »

The two men charged in the Officer Sicknick death appear to be getting railroaded by the FBI.

If they don't have any other evidence other than what this article claims, then the two guys are innocent and should walk.

https://www.revolver.news/2021/03/new-york-times-sicknick-video-creates-big-problems-for-capitol-riot-prosecutors/
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #554 on: March 31, 2021, 05:03:46 PM »

I wish the left would make up it's mind, one moment all police are the racist enforcers of white supremacy and the next they're heroes of the empire.   
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #555 on: March 31, 2021, 05:16:31 PM »

The two men charged in the Officer Sicknick death appear to be getting railroaded by the FBI.

If they don't have any other evidence other than what this article claims, then the two guys are innocent and should walk.

https://www.revolver.news/2021/03/new-york-times-sicknick-video-creates-big-problems-for-capitol-riot-prosecutors/

Wow. The was a good read. Especially the details they got into on the imagery. This is looking like two guys who should have been issued a ticket for disturbing the peace are getting basically life in prison. Again, while all of antifa walks free.
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #556 on: April 01, 2021, 08:39:30 AM »

Police use "chemical spray" all the time.  If they try to make the case that it is deadly, what does that say about them?

I was thinking the same thing.  It even looks like a can of spray in Officer Sicknick's hand in the view from his body cam.  That doesn't at all mean it was OK to spray him, but I've heard many officers say that when you use OC that it goes everywhere and it's common to get some yourself.  So it brings into question why he would have a tool that might be fatal to himself if that's what killed him.

Why is the second guy, the one who didn't spray the officer, being charged with murder?
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #557 on: April 01, 2021, 09:25:07 AM »

I was thinking the same thing.  It even looks like a can of spray in Officer Sicknick's hand in the view from his body cam.  That doesn't at all mean it was OK to spray him, but I've heard many officers say that when you use OC that it goes everywhere and it's common to get some yourself.  So it brings into question why he would have a tool that might be fatal to himself if that's what killed him.

Why is the second guy, the one who didn't spray the officer, being charged with murder?

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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #558 on: April 19, 2021, 05:01:14 PM »

While my sympathies still go to his family, Brian Sicknick appears to have died of natural causes:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/04/19/officer-brian-sicknick-found-to-have-died-of-natural-causes-after-the-storming-of-the-capitol-building-no-indications-of-injuries/

The MSM already did their damage though, and I bet a lot of people will still be going to prison because their phone's location feature put them in the wrong place at the wrong time.

EDIT: Before it's mentioned, yes, I'm sure the stress of the situation contributed, even greatly, to the strokes. However, individuals didn't kill him.
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #559 on: April 19, 2021, 05:10:56 PM »

Doesn't matter, the narrative has been written
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #560 on: April 19, 2021, 07:17:28 PM »

I wish the left would make up it's mind, one moment all police are the racist enforcers of white supremacy and the next they're heroes of the empire.

Same. Remember how evil it was to criticize the good people investigating President Trump's ties to Russia?

Also, just for fun, remember the bloodbath that ensued when all the white supremacists got together about a week ago?

https://www.businessinsider.com/multiple-cities-preparing-for-white-pride-rallies-over-the-weekend-2021-4?op=1
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #561 on: April 20, 2021, 08:13:35 AM »

Police use "chemical spray" all the time.  If they try to make the case that it is deadly, what does that say about them?
The argument has already been made that when police use a taser, it's non lethal force - but use a taser ON a cop, and that's assault with a deadly weapon. So I expect the same argument from the same people when it comes to pepper spray.
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #562 on: April 20, 2021, 10:00:23 AM »

The argument has already been made that when police use a taser, it's non lethal force - but use a taser ON a cop, and that's assault with a deadly weapon. So I expect the same argument from the same people when it comes to pepper spray.

The argument I usually see is that is an attempt to get their gun which is a deadly weapon
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #563 on: April 20, 2021, 10:11:01 AM »

Tasers do kill people on rare occasions.

Overall they reduce deaths by making it less likely a cop will need to resort to a gun.

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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #564 on: May 01, 2021, 08:13:24 AM »

They sure seem to be going all out to track down that Pelosi laptop "with nothing on it".

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/search-for-pelosis-laptop-leads-feds-to-alaska-and-wrong-home-woman-claims

There was a comment in the comments section about the guy who sat behind Pelosi's desk still being held. Obviously only hearsay, but I'd like to verify that. He was a dummy for doing it, but it didn't deserve being held without bail all this time. Especially, again, when compared to how antifa has been treated in the legal system.
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #565 on: May 01, 2021, 10:36:10 AM »

They are still holding a bunch of people with no bail. After all it was the worst attack on democracy since the civil war.  :facepalm:
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #566 on: May 01, 2021, 10:51:04 AM »

They sure seem to be going all out to track down that Pelosi laptop "with nothing on it".

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/search-for-pelosis-laptop-leads-feds-to-alaska-and-wrong-home-woman-claims


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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #567 on: May 01, 2021, 10:59:32 AM »

Dollars to donuts it wasn't a goofy MAGA guy who grabbed it or has it currently.

The whole "insurrection" is sketchy, the narrative surrounding it makes no sense.

I believe nothing about it at all, one way or the other, because the only information available is from government and media sources.

 
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #568 on: May 01, 2021, 07:10:18 PM »

I'd gift wrap that thing and mail it to Uncle Vlad, and then make some popcorn.

Putin?  There wouldn't be any point in doing that.  Russia already knows what they want to know.  Besides, Putin and Clinton are probably friends.

edit:  I wrote Clinton, but meant to write Pelosi.  Same thing really.
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #569 on: May 01, 2021, 08:21:22 PM »

Putin?  There wouldn't be any point in doing that.  Russia already knows what they want to know.  Besides, Putin and Clinton are probably friends.

Who really knows?  Anything that makes Pelosi twist is fine by me.
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Re: It's getting sporty in Washington...
« Reply #570 on: May 01, 2021, 08:51:24 PM »

Who really knows?  Anything that makes Pelosi twist is fine by me.
Why would that hurt Pelosi?  Give Russia leverage over her maybe, but they wouldnt be likely to publicize anything unless kicking her to the curb served their needs.  Say to advance an even more extreme candidate.
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