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Ben

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Rocksett Thread Locker Alternative?
« on: January 13, 2021, 02:17:58 PM »

The Cherry Bomb Muzzle Brake I just got for my M1A says to use Rocksett thread locker. I can't find any close to home. Is there an acceptable high temp alternative that places like Home Despot might sell?
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Re: Rocksett Thread Locker Alternative?
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2021, 02:30:49 PM »

Rocksett goes to 2000 degrees.  I would imagine any comparable thread locker would probably do well.
Vibra-Tite 199 Hot-Lock is one I found with a search.

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Re: Rocksett Thread Locker Alternative?
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2021, 02:49:25 PM »

Loctite Black.  (It's permanent.)

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Re: Rocksett Thread Locker Alternative?
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2021, 03:33:58 PM »

Not sure it has the temperature range.

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Re: Rocksett Thread Locker Alternative?
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2021, 03:57:37 PM »

I'm seeing both the Rocksett and Vibra-Tite on Amazon. Looks like it's $16 whichever way I cut it for something that will expire before I have a second use for it.  :laugh:

I can get Locktite 272 locally, but it only goes to 400 deg.

Apparently you have to stick both the Rocksett and the Vibra-Tite in the oven at 250deg for 10 minutes to activate them. I've never baked a gun before.

Or maybe I'll just save installing this until the can comes in, then have the LGS gunsmith do it, since he wants to align the can with my barrel, which he modified. He'll probably throw in a few dabs of the Rocksett for free.
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Re: Rocksett Thread Locker Alternative?
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2021, 03:59:05 PM »

Loctite Black.  (It's permanent.)

What's Loctite Black, and why hasn't anyone told Loctite about it?

http://wdarc.org/Loctite%20Guide.pdf

There's no Black listed in their product guide. And Red only goes up to 450 degrees.

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Re: Rocksett Thread Locker Alternative?
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2021, 04:04:54 PM »

I've never baked a gun before.

Great for getting cosmoline off old guns. Just be sure to use a drip pan and/or maybe an oven  you don't care about.  :laugh:
« Last Edit: January 13, 2021, 04:34:22 PM by WLJ »
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Re: Rocksett Thread Locker Alternative?
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2021, 04:25:54 PM »

What's Loctite Black, and why hasn't anyone told Loctite about it?

http://wdarc.org/Loctite%20Guide.pdf

There's no Black listed in their product guide. And Red only goes up to 450 degrees.

Maybe because it isn't a thread locker. Looks like rubberized super glue, whatever it is it won't work on a muzzle brake I think.

https://www.henkel-adhesives.com/us/en/product/instant-adhesives/loctite_380.html#:~:text=LOCTITE%C2%AE%20380%20is%20a,peel%2C%20impact%20and%20sheer%20strength

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Re: Rocksett Thread Locker Alternative?
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2021, 09:58:59 PM »

Maybe because it isn't a thread locker. Looks like rubberized super glue, whatever it is it won't work on a muzzle brake I think.

https://www.henkel-adhesives.com/us/en/product/instant-adhesives/loctite_380.html#:~:text=LOCTITE%C2%AE%20380%20is%20a,peel%2C%20impact%20and%20sheer%20strength

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Hmm.  Maybe they discontinued it?  Last I saw it used was 2012 to secure a nagant barrel to the frame.  It was supposed to be permanent, unlike red which can be torched to loosen.  Sorry about that.

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Re: Rocksett Thread Locker Alternative?
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2021, 06:22:20 AM »

I've only used high temp anti-sieze (automotive, copper exhaust manifold stuff) on muzzle breaks, never had on loosen up and I can remove it later if I want.

I think waiting for the smith to align your can would be the simplest thing to do.
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Re: Rocksett Thread Locker Alternative?
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2021, 06:32:35 AM »

I've only used high temp anti-sieze (automotive, copper exhaust manifold stuff) on muzzle breaks, never had on loosen up and I can remove it later if I want.

I think waiting for the smith to align your can would be the simplest thing to do.

I'm leaning that way since I don't like the noise of a muzzle brake anyway. I'll need to run back to the LGS to get a thread cap for the barrel though. The smith forgot to give me one and I don't want to accidentally chingasa up the threads.

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Re: Rocksett Thread Locker Alternative?
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2021, 08:11:50 AM »

I have a smith ent muzzle brake on an M1a (bush rifle)
It is amazingly loud and Iím not exaggerating.
I havenít shot it in a couple years. This gets me to thinking I need to get it out again. No ammo shortage here either...
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Re: Rocksett Thread Locker Alternative?
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2021, 08:17:29 AM »

I have a smith ent muzzle brake on an M1a (bush rifle)
It is amazingly loud and Iím not exaggerating.
I havenít shot it in a couple years. This gets me to thinking I need to get it out again. No ammo shortage here either...

Yeah, mine is a California M1A with the original muzzle brake either pinned or soldered in. Incredibly loud. Seemed to irritate people even at outdoor ranges. I think I'm going to enjoy shooting it a lot more with a can on the end.
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Re: Rocksett Thread Locker Alternative?
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2021, 08:21:03 AM »

I have a smith ent muzzle brake on an M1a (bush rifle)
It is amazingly loud and Iím not exaggerating.
I havenít shot it in a couple years. This gets me to thinking I need to get it out again. No ammo shortage here either...

Put a $30 muzzle brake on an RFB once just to see. Had a sinus headache for a few days after a range trip. I'm sure the cheapness of the brake was a factor. Needless to say it came right off.
You can see how close the brake would be to you face. https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearms/rifles/rfb/

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Re: Rocksett Thread Locker Alternative?
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2021, 08:47:13 AM »

Yeah, mine is a California M1A with the original muzzle brake either pinned or soldered in. Incredibly loud. Seemed to irritate people even at outdoor ranges. I think I'm going to enjoy shooting it a lot more with a can on the end.
IIRC the ones I saw were drilled and pinned. They can be unpinned but not without wrecking the flash hider.
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