Author Topic: The role of the NRA going forward (Read 1714 times)

Ron · « **on:** January 12, 2021, 12:01:49 PM »

Apparently there seems to be a seismic shift in our politics coming.

The NRA is going into these new days somewhat hobbled by internal strife.

The legal battles are probably going to ramp up and we need institutions with a lot of legal firepower on our side.

I think the Republicans are mostly toast as so many have outed themselves as Uniparty hacks.

Is the NRA in the same boat, discredited among the base or are they still the 800lb gorilla?

charby · « **Reply #1 on:** January 12, 2021, 12:10:18 PM »

Wayne (his lifestyle and actions) will be the death of the NRA before anyone tries to dismantle it.

Brad Johnson · « **Reply #2 on:** January 12, 2021, 12:10:31 PM »

Quote from: Ron on January 12, 2021, 12:01:49 PM

Is the NRA in the same boat, discredited among the base or are they still the 800lb gorilla?

If they would toss Wayne and a few key senior execs out on their rears, yes. If not, they're going to rot from the inside out.

Brad

tokugawa · « **Reply #3 on:** January 12, 2021, 12:18:50 PM »

The NRA will be declared a domestic terrorist group and leadership arrested, with full support of the big tech and media. Any voice in support of the NRA will be canceled.

Look what happened to Ron Paul a day ago.

Ben · « **Reply #4 on:** January 12, 2021, 12:26:35 PM »

Regarding Wayne, sadly, I think the coming fight will put his issues on the backburner and he will remain as is.

I don't think I'm going to donate any more money to NRA at this time, even with the coming fight. I'll be concentrating my donations with state level groups here in Idaho.

RocketMan · « **Reply #5 on:** January 12, 2021, 12:32:59 PM »

I'm thinking the NRA = Tits on a boar hog at this point.

Fitz · « **Reply #6 on:** January 12, 2021, 12:34:49 PM »

The time of hoping to fight off these things in the courtrooms has long passed.

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #7 on:** January 12, 2021, 12:37:08 PM »

I've kept up my annual NRA membership for 5-6 years now but the whole LaPierre fiasco has me reconsidering that.
I'm a paid member of a state level 2A group nut I'm concerned that we do need a national level 2A group.
What are the worthwhile national level groups out there?
GOA? Anybody else?

AZRedhawk44 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 12, 2021, 01:15:43 PM »

Quote from: RoadKingLarry on January 12, 2021, 12:37:08 PM

I've kept up my annual NRA membership for 5-6 years now but the whole LaPierre fiasco has me reconsidering that.
I'm a paid member of a state level 2A group nut I'm concerned that we do need a national level 2A group.
What are the worthwhile national level groups out there?
GOA? Anybody else?

SAF. CCRKBA.

I consider SAF to be the real lion on our side. Their court record is impressive.

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #9 on:** January 12, 2021, 01:23:49 PM »

Quote from: Fitz on January 12, 2021, 12:34:49 PM

The time of hoping to fight off these things in the courtrooms has long passed.

... especially if the Democrats make good on their threat to pack SCOTUS.

zxcvbob · « **Reply #10 on:** January 12, 2021, 02:31:42 PM »

I just let my NRA membership of about 25 years lapse because of the LaPierre debacle (RKL already used the word "fiasco" :D ) And I gave an extra $50 to the SAF. I'll probably keep doing that. If the NRA miraculously gets their act together I will rejoin and all I've lost is my voting rights for a few years, but member votes don't mean anything after the last change to the bylaws anyway.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 12, 2021, 03:15:53 PM »

Aside from anyone else, make sure you support you state level gun rights organization if you have a good one.

I have heard good interviews from Firearms Policy Coalition. The legal guy from the Gun Collective on Youtube is working for them. I have been supporting SAF for a long time. I started supporting GOA lately. They hired a Texas rep who is someone I have heard of and she is pretty active.

I don't think the NRA has much if any power right now. If all the money they had been blowing over the last 20 years had been used to help get Congressmen elected, they might have some pull in D.C. I don't see it right now.

Ron · « **Reply #12 on:** January 15, 2021, 11:02:53 PM »

Looks like the NRA is reorganizing, moving out of New York and into Texas.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nra-files-bankruptcy-dumps-new-york-will-reincorporate-texas

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #13 on:** January 16, 2021, 12:01:19 AM »

Quote from: tokugawa on January 12, 2021, 12:18:50 PM

The NRA will be declared a domestic terrorist group and leadership arrested, with full support of the big tech and media. Any voice in support of the NRA will be canceled.

Look what happened to Ron Paul a day ago.

What happened to Ron Paul?

zxcvbob · « **Reply #14 on:** January 16, 2021, 01:06:04 AM »

Quote from: Hawkmoon on January 16, 2021, 12:01:19 AM

What happened to Ron Paul?

facebook locked him out of his account for no obvious reason.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #15 on:** January 16, 2021, 05:35:54 AM »

Quote from: zxcvbob on January 16, 2021, 01:06:04 AM

facebook locked him out of his account for no obvious reason.

As much as it pains me to say it, "There ought'a be a law." Social media platforms should not be allowed to block elected officials from posting their thoughts and opinions.

dogmush · « **Reply #16 on:** January 16, 2021, 06:35:10 AM »

Ron Paul is not an elected official.

Although I agree with Hawkmoon, the social media companies are more than due for a hard look at how they are regulated and/or protected by the gov.

As a side note: I dropped off all social media a couple weeks back for my mental health, but before I did I was cynically entertained by all my leftist, progressive friend's sudden embrace of a completely de-regulated free market, where the Gov doesn't dictate anything to a private company.

Boomhauer · « **Reply #17 on:** January 16, 2021, 07:51:39 AM »

Quote from: dogmush on January 16, 2021, 06:35:10 AM

Ron Paul is not an elected official.

Although I agree with Hawkmoon, the social media companies are more than due for a hard look at how they are regulated and/or protected by the gov.

As a side note: I dropped off all social media a couple weeks back for my mental health, but before I did I was cynically entertained by all my leftist, progressive friend's sudden embrace of a completely de-regulated free market, where the Gov doesn't dictate anything to a private company.

Similar to their sudden embrace of law and order and support of the police. I’ve had a lot of fun throwing their own words courtesy of screenshots back at them lately but all they do is react with “bUt itS nOt lIke tHaT aT aLL”

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #18 on:** January 16, 2021, 09:28:37 AM »

Quote from: dogmush on January 16, 2021, 06:35:10 AM

Ron Paul is not an elected official.

Oops. Forgot which is which. Yeah, it's his son who is the elected official.

Fly320s · « **Reply #19 on:** January 16, 2021, 09:42:20 AM »

Quote from: Ron on January 12, 2021, 12:01:49 PM

Is the NRA in the same boat, discredited among the base or are they still the 800lb gorilla?

I think most NRA members still support the NRA primarily because those members have no idea what is going on with Lapierre, et al. To them the NRA is the only gun rights group and they get a "free" magazine and bumper sticker for their $35 per year.

The NRA needs a serious house cleaning and reorganizing. We all know that the NRA has two main parts: the safety and shooting part, and the political part: the NRA-ILA. The safety/shooting part needs to be completely separated from the ILA and renamed something other than NRA. They need a full rebranding. The ILA should keep operating, but also needs a new name, maybe NFA to play the 1934 law into our favor.

No matter what happens, I won't contribute to the NRA until Lapierre and his cronies are removed.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #20 on:** January 16, 2021, 11:01:39 AM »

Quote from: Fly320s on January 16, 2021, 09:42:20 AM

I think most NRA members still support the NRA primarily because those members have no idea what is going on with Lapierre, et al. To them the NRA is the only gun rights group and they get a "free" magazine and bumper sticker for their $35 per year.

Over on The Firing Line forum I see both types. There are some who, like you and me, see that the top leadership of the NRA is rotten to the core and needs to be replaced. And then there are the "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" diehards who, as you so aptly expressed it, truly believe that the NRA is the only gun rights group. They still proclaim to the heavens that we MUST continue to support the NRA or the 2nd Amendment is doomed, and all the accusations about Wayne LaPierre are falsehoods, created out of thin air by the anti-gun people who want to destroy the NRA.

I'm not sure which camp has more people in it.

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Author Topic: The role of the NRA going forward (Read 1714 times)