7 FBI agents shot while serving child porn warrant. 2 maybe 3 dead.

[Hawkmoon]

Maybe after the last year or so and the defunding the police mantra coupled with mass retirements and career changes by the police they have realized that they *may* just be outnumbered and outgunned and have started carrying a few flags in the cruiser trunks. 

Possible.

I personally know four former police officers who have retired, and one who simply decided to get out of that line of work. None of them seem to have any regrets about getting out.

[JTHunter]

According to the news reports I have heard this evening, the "alleged perp" is also dead.  They have yet to say if it was by FBI return fire or self-inflicted.

[WLJ]

According to the news reports I have heard this evening, the "alleged perp" is also dead.  They have yet to say if it was by FBI return fire or self-inflicted.

https://wsvn.com/news/local/two-fbi-agents-killed-3-injured-while-serving-warrant-in-sunrise/

Authorities also said the subject is dead, and the shooter died by suicide.

[kgbsquirrel]

To the best of my knowledge, ambulances don't carry flags for draping corpses, either.

Undertaker we hired for my dad kept some in their vans and herses for just such a reason.  Dad left home for the last time under a flag even though it was just the undertaker and us, and done in the dark evening.

[HankB]

Strange - not a peep about this on the local news so far.

[kgbsquirrel]

Strange - not a peep about this on the local news so far.

Still coordinating the narrative.

[Ron]

The FBI is corrupt at the highest levels so I don't believe any of their stories at face value.

The FBI engaged in a coup attempt against an elected president.

They are not the good guys. They are just another group of bad guys.

 

[MechAg94]

Let's hope it isn't another political arrest that went sideways.  FBI has been rounding up people from the 6th.

I hope that as well.  The guy may be what they say he was accused of, but we don't know.  It is one of those accusations that get no sympathy from anyone.  Hopefully that isn't case here and this was actually someone that deserved it. 

I do recall an interview I heard several years ago from someone who was under some pressure from federal prosecutors.  They were suspicious and had a 3rd party inspect their computer who found a file buried in the system that could be seen as illegal.  Said they didn't put it there and it wasn't in a location that was easily found.  You can imagine if someone was raided and the Feds claimed they found child porn on their computer, just about anyone defending them would pull back.  The circumstances wouldn't matter.     If the Feds started the Great Confiscation, that would be a good way to disguise the initial round of raids.     Maybe I can pass that to Infowars to investigate. 

[Ben]

I do recall an interview I heard several years ago from someone who was under some pressure from federal prosecutors.  They were suspicious and had a 3rd party inspect their computer who found a file buried in the system that could be seen as illegal.  Said they didn't put it there and it wasn't in a location that was easily found.  You can imagine if someone was raided and the Feds claimed they found child porn on their computer, just about anyone defending them would pull back.  The circumstances wouldn't matter.     If the Feds started the Great Confiscation, that would be a good way to disguise the initial round of raids.     Maybe I can pass that to Infowars to investigate.

Uncle Sugar sent me to a SANS401 computer security course years back. One of the instructors was an FBI cyberagent, and he was teaching when we went over embedding hidden images inside of documents. At the time, he said it was a popular way for child porn people to sneak their images around. I can't recall the method name anymore.

It would be very easy to set someone up with that type of file through any kind of email/download where they weren't paying attention. You have to know what you're looking for to suspect, and it's much harder now than it was back when I took the class. We worked with files for that segment where a "suspicion trigger" was a one page document that instead of being 30K was 300K. These days, a 300K image could easily be slipped in a one page word processing document that was saved at 3meg because of all the fancy formatting options in modern software.

Edit: It may have even been slipping a hidden image "inside" another image. I would need to dig up the old books to verify.

[Nick1911]

Uncle Sugar sent me to a SANS401 computer security course years back. One of the instructors was an FBI cyberagent, and he was teaching when we went over embedding hidden images inside of documents. At the time, he said it was a popular way for child porn people to sneak their images around. I can't recall the method name anymore.

It would be very easy to set someone up with that type of file through any kind of email/download where they weren't paying attention. You have to know what you're looking for to suspect, and it's much harder now than it was back when I took the class. We worked with files for that segment where a "suspicion trigger" was a one page document that instead of being 30K was 300K. These days, a 300K image could easily be slipped in a one page word processing document that was saved at 3meg because of all the fancy formatting options in modern software.

Steganography

[Ben]

Steganography

That's the one. :)

[Jim147]

All they have to do is drop a micro sd card.

[WLJ]

Give the dems another year or two and these people will be a protected class and illegal to discriminate against

[Fly320s]

Give the dems another year or two and these people will be a protected class and illegal to discriminate against

FBI agents?

[WLJ]

FBI agents?

Don't they already have that status?

[brimic]

Give the dems another year or two and these people will be a protected class and illegal to discriminate against

If you do a deep dive into the subject, you’ll find that nearly all of the main porn outlets are owned by the same entity, and this entity has been involved in CP. the people involved would certainly be considered a protected class.

[kgbsquirrel]

Stolen shamelessly from another forum.


The FBI has proven itself, time and time again, to be a thoroughly untrustworthy organization that is primarily focused on doing the dirty work of the Democratic party.

Who has Seth Rich's computer despite lying about it for 4 years?

Who instigated the Garland, TX terrorist attack?

Who had an FBI informant imbedded with the first WTC bombing crew?  Who was warned ahead of time of the plans and yet did nothing?

Who has Hunter Biden's laptop, and sat on it?

Who has Anthony Weiner's laptop, and sat on it?

Who altered their 302 statements to frame Flynn?

Who allowed Hillary Clinton and her team to destroy evidence before turning it over to the FBI and did not recommend prosecution for said destruction?

Which hostage rescue team has killed more hostages than they rescued?

Which Federal police organization sat back for 9 months while Antifa et al burned cities and killed conservatives?

Which Federal organization allowed it's top level officials to blatantly break the law and engage in a coup attempt against a Presidential candidate and then President?

Which Federal organization is now being used to investigate Trump supporters who simply attended the Jan 6 rally and did not participate in the riot?

Oh yeah, the FBI.

[freakazoid]

Stolen shamelessly from another forum.


The FBI has proven itself, time and time again, to be a thoroughly untrustworthy organization that is primarily focused on doing the dirty work of the Democratic party.

Who has Seth Rich's computer despite lying about it for 4 years?

Who instigated the Garland, TX terrorist attack?

Who had an FBI informant imbedded with the first WTC bombing crew?  Who was warned ahead of time of the plans and yet did nothing?

Who has Hunter Biden's laptop, and sat on it?

Who has Anthony Weiner's laptop, and sat on it?

Who altered their 302 statements to frame Flynn?

Who allowed Hillary Clinton and her team to destroy evidence before turning it over to the FBI and did not recommend prosecution for said destruction?

Which hostage rescue team has killed more hostages than they rescued?

Which Federal police organization sat back for 9 months while Antifa et al burned cities and killed conservatives?

Which Federal organization allowed it's top level officials to blatantly break the law and engage in a coup attempt against a Presidential candidate and then President?

Which Federal organization is now being used to investigate Trump supporters who simply attended the Jan 6 rally and did not participate in the riot?

Oh yeah, the FBI.

Who was guarding Epstein's island when the building caught on fire? I'm assuming the same people  but don't actually know. 

[lee n. field]

Uncle Sugar sent me to a SANS401 computer security course years back. One of the instructors was an FBI cyberagent, and he was teaching when we went over embedding hidden images inside of documents. At the time, he said it was a popular way for child porn people to sneak their images around. I can't recall the method name anymore.

Steganography is what that's called.

It would be very easy to set someone up with that type of file through any kind of email/download where they weren't paying attention. You have to know what you're looking for to suspect, and it's much harder now than it was back when I took the class. We worked with files for that segment where a "suspicion trigger" was a one page document that instead of being 30K was 300K. These days, a 300K image could easily be slipped in a one page word processing document that was saved at 3meg because of all the fancy formatting options in modern software.

Edit: It may have even been slipping a hidden image "inside" another image. I would need to dig up the old books to verify.

Hard to defend against that.

I've taken to encrypting any hard disk (on a laptop) that might leave the house (and some in).  Too easy for a hostile actor ("advanced persistent threat") to slip a nasty in on someone.  Probably wouldn't be enough, but one has to try.

[WLJ]

It's those evil military-style weapons again. Oh and doorbell cameras.

Authorities are investigating whether he may have used his doorbell’s security camera to time his ambush, firing a high-powered rifle through the door as their team neared to search his home and computer.

That’s a danger police nationwide are facing: As outdoor surveillance cameras now protect about half of U.S. homes from criminals, the criminals are using them to get a jump on officers about to raid theirs. Some doorbell cameras even have motion sensors that alert owners when anyone comes within 100 feet (30 meters).

The cameras, combined with the military-style weaponry many criminals possess, leave law enforcement offers particularly vulnerable. In such situations, the house’s doors and walls offer no protection, noted Ed Davis, Boston’s police commissioner from 2006 to 2013.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/former-cops-doorbell-cameras-could-result-in-more-no-knock-police-warrants/

Davis said there are some countermeasures officers can take against surveillance cameras but they carry the risk of tipping off suspects, particularly when they believe a raid is imminent. Some police departments have devices that can jam the Bluetooth or other radio-wave systems some cameras use to send images to their monitor. And they can cut the home’s power, although many camera systems have battery backups.

[Hawkmoon]

Oh, the delicious irony: All across the country, police departments are trying to get owners of doorbell cameras to link them into the PD so the cops can have an expanded surveillance network without having to install much of any infrastructure. But God forbid a homeowner should use his doorbell camera to let him know when someone is approaching his door. That's EVIL!

[brimic]

Jokes on them. I have mine wired up to rain napalm down on anyone who approaches my door with weapons.

[Andiron]

Jokes on them. I have mine wired up to rain napalm down on anyone who approaches my door with weapons.

I gotta look into that.  The boiling oil setup I have is old school and not nearly efficient as napalm.

[HankB]

Jokes on them. I have mine wired up to rain napalm down on anyone who approaches my door with weapons.

And all I have is a trapdoor and spike pit . . .

[WLJ]

Mine just shines a laser beam on them The 10 cats take care of the rest.