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Re: Impeach / Punish
« Reply #50 on: February 13, 2021, 05:56:12 PM »

Is Pelosi the first Speaker to go 0-2?

Wouldn't that be Schumer at 0-2, Pelosi got her part done, Schumer couldn't close the deal!

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Re: Impeach / Punish
« Reply #51 on: February 13, 2021, 08:04:44 PM »

With the Republican party as useless and spineless as they are today, the Democrats will rule forever anyway. That's why I think now is the time for a third party to form.

While I agree with your assessment of the ...... um ... "repukeagain" party  >:D the solution is to FIX the party,  not create a new one which splits the vote.
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Re: Impeach / Punish
« Reply #52 on: February 13, 2021, 08:16:30 PM »

I'm afraid spitting the votes was the plan all along.
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Re: Impeach / Punish
« Reply #53 on: February 13, 2021, 08:21:12 PM »

I'm afraid spitting the votes was the plan all along.

Whose plan?   The democrats would love it,  but they don't seem to be in a position to encourage a conservative third party.  The repukes are stupid enough to do it but, then again,  I don't see any desire amongst the ball-less blunderers to create it.
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Re: Impeach / Punish
« Reply #54 on: February 13, 2021, 09:23:38 PM »

While I agree with your assessment of the ...... um ... "repukeagain" party  >:D the solution is to FIX the party,  not create a new one which splits the vote.

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Re: Impeach / Punish
« Reply #55 on: February 13, 2021, 10:41:04 PM »

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« Reply #56 on: February 14, 2021, 12:13:01 AM »

Problem is, just as with the Tea Party, any alternative to the Republican Party will get co-opted by the same elites and nothing really will change, except that the vote on the right will be split for a while.  I wish I could offer a real, viable solution but short of massive bloodshed I don’t see one.  The vested interests are too, well, vested.

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Re: Impeach / Punish
« Reply #57 on: February 14, 2021, 01:59:22 AM »

Schumer is making noises about using the 14th Amendment to try and prevent Trump from holding office again.

They really are that terrified of him.

They seem to be gauging interest in that idea, even talking about legislation to prevent him from running.  I suspect the main reason is because it only requires a majority to pass.  But the 14th just says somebody can't hold the office if they rebelled or took part in an insurrection.  The mechanism to bar the person is left open.  I would think one would have to be convicted of such a crime before being barred, but then congress gets to make up their own rules.

Yep, they are scared of him.  He doesn't care about the way it's always been done and they have no control over him, so he's a real threat to their power.  I'm not really a Trump fan but this entire dog and pony show is pointing out how desperate the politicians are to remain in control.
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Re: Impeach / Punish
« Reply #58 on: February 14, 2021, 04:32:23 AM »

Wouldn't that be Schumer at 0-2, Pelosi got her part done, Schumer couldn't close the deal!

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Re: Impeach / Punish
« Reply #59 on: February 14, 2021, 05:33:24 AM »

Problem is, just as with the Tea Party, any alternative to the Republican Party will get co-opted by the same elites and nothing really will change, except that the vote on the right will be split for a while.  I wish I could offer a real, viable solution but short of massive bloodshed I don’t see one.  The vested interests are too, well, vested.

If it wasn’t corrupted down to the local level there would be a chance but it’s so rotten that virtually anybody who makes it through to the federal level after rising up through the lower parts is suspect at best.
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Re: Impeach / Punish
« Reply #60 on: February 14, 2021, 05:42:15 AM »

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« Reply #61 on: February 14, 2021, 05:56:03 AM »

The Republican Party is already split.

For decades the R "elite" campaign on the issues the grassroots care about then ALWAYS fail to get anything done.

There is always the same cast of characters that give the D's the win with timely help from a revolving group of secondary players who occasionally break ranks when needed.

It is a uni-party of grafters.

Nothing really makes sense because we can't follow the money.

If there was a flow chart of where the money begins and whose pocket it ends up in, then things would make more sense.

The split is between Republican voters and the actual Republican politicians.



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Re: Impeach / Punish
« Reply #62 on: February 14, 2021, 05:56:59 AM »

Man, one of Trump's attorneys really hands the media their ass in this interview. Well done.

 https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/02/14/hello-9-1-1-wed-like-to-report-a-murder-trump-attorney-michael-van-der-veen-just-decimates-the-media-during-cbs-interview-watch/

MVDV left that talking head bleeding on the floor.  I hope someone called the paramedics.  That was the most awesome interview.
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Re: Impeach / Punish
« Reply #63 on: February 14, 2021, 07:33:43 AM »

Given Pelosi's demented tantrum yesterday, this is appropriate.  =D

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Re: Impeach / Punish
« Reply #64 on: February 14, 2021, 08:19:28 AM »

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Re: Impeach / Punish
« Reply #65 on: February 14, 2021, 08:48:17 AM »

Man, one of Trump's attorneys really hands the media their ass in this interview. Well done.

 https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/02/14/hello-9-1-1-wed-like-to-report-a-murder-trump-attorney-michael-van-der-veen-just-decimates-the-media-during-cbs-interview-watch/

He still pushes the nonsense about the problem being extremism on both sides, and we need to meet in the middle. I am really tired of hearing that.
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Re: Impeach / Punish
« Reply #67 on: February 14, 2021, 09:37:53 AM »

He still pushes the nonsense about the problem being extremism on both sides, and we need to meet in the middle. I am really tired of hearing that.

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Decades of meeting in the middle gets you ---> where we are now
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Re: Impeach / Punish
« Reply #68 on: February 14, 2021, 10:41:28 AM »

The dialectic Cthulhu only swims left ...

Decades of meeting in the middle gets you ---> where we are now

Brought to you by the "lesser of two evils" philosophy.

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« Reply #69 on: February 14, 2021, 02:02:00 PM »

The dialectic Cthulhu only swims left ...

Decades of meeting in the middle gets you ---> where we are now

When the left says they want to meet in the middle, they mean the right has to move, not them (unless it further to the left).  First shift doesn’t seem so bad, but after a while you suddenly realize the middle you moved to the first time is now a long ways to your right.

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Re: Impeach / Punish
« Reply #70 on: February 14, 2021, 05:37:11 PM »

Say, shouldn't the FBI be using cell phone data, bank records, etc. to chase all these people making death threats down and bring them to justice? I thought that's the new modus operandi since 06JAN?

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« Reply #71 on: February 15, 2021, 07:30:33 AM »

Say, shouldn't the FBI be using cell phone data, bank records, etc. to chase all these people making death threats down and bring them to justice? I thought that's the new modus operandi since 06JAN?

They only serve the Democrats now.  Don’t expect anything that makes sense from the FBI except to quiet the right.

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Re: Impeach / Punish
« Reply #72 on: February 15, 2021, 09:32:14 AM »

Also, Cocaine Mitch can drop dead. He's back to being an establishment shill.

"Ignore what he says, pay attention to what he does and the results he gets" - I heard that all the time about Trump.
If you apply that standard to Mitch then he's still looking pretty darn good.
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Re: Impeach / Punish
« Reply #73 on: February 15, 2021, 09:42:09 AM »

"Ignore what he says, pay attention to what he does and the results he gets" - I heard that all the time about Trump.
If you apply that standard to Mitch then he's still looking pretty darn good.

Compared to Schumer, yes. 

Compared to most Republicans, not so much.
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« Reply #74 on: February 15, 2021, 09:56:26 AM »

"Ignore what he says, pay attention to what he does and the results he gets" - I heard that all the time about Trump.
If you apply that standard to Mitch then he's still looking pretty darn good.

Both Graham and McConnell are deep state players.

They will forever be defined by whether they listen to MAGA or go back to business as usual.

I was pleasantly surprised by McConnells work on the Federal judges situation so yes, I will be watching his actions more than his words. 

My expectations for both of them are pretty low though, neither seem to have a nationalist bone in their bodies.
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