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Re: Cancel Culture is Getting Ridiculous
« Reply #375 on: May 14, 2022, 10:00:05 AM »

The race of the character doesn't matter, as long as they look like the character.  So if they want to have black man playing bond, they better slather him with enough pink makeup to make him look Scottish.

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Re: Cancel Culture is Getting Ridiculous
« Reply #376 on: May 14, 2022, 11:47:29 AM »

The worm turns.

Anyone remember the author, Tony Hillerman, and his Jim Chee mysteries set on the Navajo reservation? In 1991 Robert Redford made a movie out of one of the books, The Dark Wind.. It starred Lou Diamond Phillips (who is not Native American except for a trace of Cherokee on his father's side) as Jim Chee. There was so much negative publicity about casting a non-Native American in the primary role that the film was never released, even though it was completed.

But suddenly it's not only okay but de riguer to cast Hispanics as old, white British colonists, black women as a womanizing as Scottish sectret agent, yada, yada. Next up: a transgender "female" bodybuilder as Wonder Woman. And it will use them/their as its pronouns.

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Re: Cancel Culture is Getting Ridiculous
« Reply #377 on: May 14, 2022, 11:59:13 AM »

Both the Japanese and Chinese will throw fits if a Chinese is used to portray a Japanese character and vice versa. Memoirs of a Geisha being a notable example
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Re: Cancel Culture is Getting Ridiculous
« Reply #378 on: May 14, 2022, 06:33:52 PM »

Then there's Steven Seagal's On Deadly Ground, in which Joan Chen (a Chinese-American) plays an Eskimo chief's daughter. At one point in the fim Seagal asks her if she can ride a horse, to which she replies, "Of course -- I'm a Native American." Leaving us to suppose, I guess, that all Eskimo villages have a few horses scattered about in case their sled dogs need a day off.

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Re: Cancel Culture is Getting Ridiculous
« Reply #379 on: May 15, 2022, 07:04:12 AM »

Then there's Steven Seagal's On Deadly Ground, in which Joan Chen (a Chinese-American) plays an Eskimo chief's daughter. At one point in the fim Seagal asks her if she can ride a horse, to which she replies, "Of course -- I'm a Native American." Leaving us to suppose, I guess, that all Eskimo villages have a few horses scattered about in case their sled dogs need a day off.

Bet she could put away the firewater, too.
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Re: Cancel Culture is Getting Ridiculous
« Reply #380 on: May 15, 2022, 07:43:56 AM »

Then there's Steven Seagal's On Deadly Ground, in which Joan Chen (a Chinese-American) plays an Eskimo chief's daughter. At one point in the fim Seagal asks her if she can ride a horse, to which she replies, "Of course -- I'm a Native American." Leaving us to suppose, I guess, that all Eskimo villages have a few horses scattered about in case their sled dogs need a day off.

There was a lot more wrong with that movie than the chinese casting.  Also, in the 90's this wasn't really a topic of outrage.

Let's not forget the time Sean Connery used a squint and spray tan to be Japanese.  Probably wouldn't fly today.

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Re: Cancel Culture is Getting Ridiculous
« Reply #381 on: May 15, 2022, 07:55:13 AM »

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Let's not forget the time Sean Connery used a squint and spray tan to be Japanese.  Probably wouldn't fly today.[/quote]

That was not casting, it was a disguise his James Bond character used to infiltrate the evil Japanese overlord's lair.
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Re: Cancel Culture is Getting Ridiculous
« Reply #382 on: July 01, 2022, 09:39:04 AM »

"Someone complained"

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Re: Cancel Culture is Getting Ridiculous
« Reply #383 on: July 01, 2022, 09:48:24 AM »

Let's not forget the time Sean Connery used a squint and spray tan to be Japanese.  Probably wouldn't fly today.

That was not casting, it was a disguise his James Bond character used to infiltrate the evil Japanese overlord's lair.

Looked real convincing too  ;/
I could see it fooling someone in 1850 Europe where they they've never seen a real Japanese person in person before and only had a vague idea from cartoon like drawings what one looked liked if that but fooling actual Japanese?
Now I can't remember but were they maybe trying to pass him off as Japanese with European blood?
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Re: Cancel Culture is Getting Ridiculous
« Reply #384 on: July 01, 2022, 10:33:49 AM »

Looked real convincing too  ;/
I could see it fooling someone in 1850 Europe where they they've never seen a real Japanese person in person before and only had a vague idea from cartoon like drawings what one looked liked if that but fooling actual Japanese?
Now I can't remember but were they maybe trying to pass him off as Japanese with European blood?
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Re: Cancel Culture is Getting Ridiculous
« Reply #385 on: July 01, 2022, 10:53:26 AM »

Are you telling me that you didn't believe John Wayne was Genghis Khan?  You have no imagination!   =D

The only time I remember off the top off my head I was half way convinced, looks wise, was in the movie Remo Williams, can't remember the actor's name. But even there the guy looked more Central Chinese than Korean which he suppose to be.
But it's been decades since I've seen that movie.
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Re: Cancel Culture is Getting Ridiculous
« Reply #386 on: July 01, 2022, 12:46:03 PM »

"Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins" - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089901/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Fred Ward was Remo.
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Re: Cancel Culture is Getting Ridiculous
« Reply #387 on: July 01, 2022, 12:51:48 PM »

"Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins" - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089901/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Fred Ward was Remo.


Joel Grey was the actor in that I'm referring to
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Re: Cancel Culture is Getting Ridiculous
« Reply #388 on: July 01, 2022, 05:11:21 PM »

Looked real convincing too  ;/
I could see it fooling someone in 1850 Europe where they they've never seen a real Japanese person in person before and only had a vague idea from cartoon like drawings what one looked liked if that but fooling actual Japanese?
Now I can't remember but were they maybe trying to pass him off as Japanese with European blood?

No, they were trying to pass him off as Japanese so he could operate out of the small fishing village near the evil villain's secret rocket base without arousing suspicion.  The villain, Ernst Stavro Blofeld, had hidden it in a nearby volcano, of course.  Bond only knew it was somewhere near the village, but didn't know it was in the volcano.

As it happens, I just watched this movie again early this week.  "You Only Live Twice", which was Sean Connery's second to last Bond film if I remember correctly (not counting "Never Say Never Again").
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« Reply #389 on: July 01, 2022, 05:16:00 PM »

No, they were trying to pass him off as Japanese so he could operate out of the small fishing village near the evil villain's secret rocket base without arousing suspicion.  The base was hidden in a nearby volcano, of course.  Bond only knew it was somewhere near the village, but didn't know it was in the volcano.

I know the story, just been a while since I've seen the movie and I couldn't remember if they were trying to pass him off as Japanese or as a Japanese/European mix. As a mix I could somewhat see it but you would have to had some really bad eyesight to think he was pure Japanese.
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« Reply #390 on: July 01, 2022, 05:18:54 PM »

I know the story, just been a while since I've seen the movie and I couldn't remember if they were trying to pass him off as Japanese or as a Japanese/European mix. You would have to had some really bad eyesight to think he was Japanese.

You'd have had to be blind in one eye and deaf in the other.  Part way through the film where he was supposed to be disguised, they apparently just gave up as all the makeup and prosthetics had disappeared.
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Re: Cancel Culture is Getting Ridiculous
« Reply #391 on: July 01, 2022, 05:23:43 PM »

Give him some pointy ears and he could pass as Romulan

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« Reply #392 on: July 01, 2022, 05:29:48 PM »

^^^ He could at that.
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« Reply #393 on: July 01, 2022, 06:25:07 PM »

You only live twice was filmed in 1966 (released in 67)
Romulans first appear in ST in 1966
Hmmm
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