Looks like Biden is Ready to Move on Gun Control

[HeroHog]

The crossbow has been claimed by a local friend...

[cordex]

The crossbow has been claimed by a local friend...

I bet he won’t kill dogs.

Or cats.

One of the two.

[Ron]

So the Dems want to go to war with Russia, China and half the USA?

[HankB]

So the Dems want to go to war with Russia, China and half the USA?

Maybe the dems think they'll be allied with Russia and China against half the USA?

[Ron]

Maybe the dems think they'll be allied with Russia and China against half the USA?

there's that also, it's all spy vs spy 

Our government sure hasn't been and doesn't seem to be working for our best interests at all.

[WLJ]

Fish and Wildlife proposing total ban on lead hunting ammo and fishing tackle by 2026 on lands operated by The US and Wildlife Service

Biden's Fish & Wildlife Service Pitches Lead Ammo & Fishing Tackle Ban
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21RJ65W_84Q

[WLJ]

Apparently they're upset S&W didn't show up and beg for forgiveness

“This subpoena was made necessary by your unwillingness to voluntarily comply with the Committee’s investigation, including your refusal to testify about your company’s troubling business practices at the Committee’s July 27, 2022, hearing and your refusal to voluntarily produce key information about your company’s sale of assault weapons to civilians,” committee chairwoman Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.) said in a statement.

Smith & Wesson subpoenaed by House Committee
https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2022/08/03/smith-wesson-subpoena-n61073

[Jim147]

I don't recall,

We wiped it with a cloth.

[Ben]

Wow. I didn't know S&W told them to *expletive deleted*ck off. I should make my next gun purchase an S&W. I really respect them for this.

[WLJ]

If anyone ordered a Forced Reset Trigger reports ATF going door to door to collect them

BREAKING NEWS: ATF Showing Up At Private Residences To Seize Forced Reset Triggers?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYXKPaa2t_g

[WLJ]

Wow. I didn't know S&W told them to *expletive deleted*ck off. I should make my next gun purchase an S&W. I really respect them for this.

Smith & Wesson Responded to Attacks When They Couldn’t Be Interrupted By Rep. Maloney’s Gavel
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/smith-wesson-responded-to-attacks-when-they-couldnt-be-interrupted-by-rep-maloneys-gavel/

[dogmush]

If anyone ordered a Forced Reset Trigger reports ATF going door to door to collect them

BREAKING NEWS: ATF Showing Up At Private Residences To Seize Forced Reset Triggers?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYXKPaa2t_g

I'll let you guys know if they show up.

[MechAg94]

If anyone ordered a Forced Reset Trigger reports ATF going door to door to collect them

BREAKING NEWS: ATF Showing Up At Private Residences To Seize Forced Reset Triggers?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYXKPaa2t_g

I thought about it, but decided I didn't want to get one online. 

[WLJ]

Says the the ATF is showing up at the doorsteps of people that are selling them on Gun Broker by getting their info through "control buys" and that they are not, yet, going after people who purchased them directly from Rare Breed since Rare Breed has refused to give them buyer info.
And apparently the ATF has no idea what to do yet if the owner refuses to turn it over.

How The ATF Got The Rare Breed Owner's Information
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkTGlfgv3hg&t=385s

[Lennyjoe]

Read today that the new ghost gun rule goes into effect.

https://thehill.com/regulation/legislation/3614421-atf-goes-after-ghost-guns-as-new-rule-takes-effect/

The new rule requires that retailers run background checks before selling parts kits that someone could use to assemble a firearm, clarifies the definition of frame or receiver and identifies which parts of the firearm must be marked with a serial number.

The rule also requires that gun retailers and gunsmiths add a serial number to guns printed on 3D printers or any nonserialized firearms they accept for resale or purchase.

The time for which gun retailers must retain records has also been increased from two decades to the entire time in which the retailers are licensed. The Justice Department noted that ATF had been unable to trace many firearms that were reportedly used in homicides and violent crime due to the destruction of records after 20 years.

[dogmush]

I (and many others) am unclear on what the new rule does to 80 percent lowers. Certainly the "Glock in a box" type kits with everything you need to assemble a gun are covered under the new rule, but is just a single 80 percent AR lower with no other parts considered a kit? What about an AR lower parts kit?  How many parts and tools/jigs have to be missing before an order is no longer a "gun parts kit"?

[Jim147]

I (and many others) am unclear on what the new rule does to 80 percent lowers. Certainly the "Glock in a box" type kits with everything you need to assemble a gun are covered under the new rule, but is just a single 80 percent AR lower with no other parts considered a kit? What about an AR lower parts kit?  How many parts and tools/jigs have to be missing before an order is no longer a "gun parts kit"?

They will tell you at the trial.

[dogmush]

Perhaps.

I'm not worried, because as a non-licensee ( or rather an 03) I'm operating under the "make guns for personal use and don't need to serialize them" part, so whether the unfinished receivers in my safe magically became firearms yesterday or not doesn't really matter.  I'm allowed to have them as firearms.

I'm more interested in how complete the "kit" needs to be.  Is this a Firearm: https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/RHEINMETALL-PB-BERETTA-MG42-59-PARTS-KIT-WITH-HEAVY-BOLT-HEAVY-BUFFER-141p10316.htm

How about this: https://www.aimsurplus.com/products/spikes-tactical-ar15-lower-receiver-parts-kit-lpk

I guess we'll see as this shakes out.  I also wonder if we'll actually see trials, or if you push it will the ATF quietly drop the case like they do with AR lower receiver cases.  (note, while they specifically call the lower the receiver of an AR in this rule, it's even farther out of the revised definition than it was the old one.

Still waiting on my visit over that trigger anyway.

[WLJ]

Still waiting on my visit over that trigger anyway.

See reply 863

[dogmush]

See reply 863

Yep.  I bought mine from BDU, one of the retailers that we know gave F-troop their records, so I'm assuming I'll get a friendly visit at some point.

[HankB]

Yep.  I bought mine from BDU, one of the retailers that we know gave F-troop their records, so I'm assuming I'll get a friendly visit at some point.

Got a welding torch?

You still have time to prepare a blob of molten slag that you can turn over which contains (among the remains of other assorted nuts, bolts, and scrap metal) what used to be an FRT.

[Ben]

This could fit into any of the Biden threads here. This one is as good as any.

F-15s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was talking to a left-leaning friend the other day, and he said he was getting sick of the Biden admins (and AOC's and others) over the top attacks on the right. I think he's not the only one. This is a pretty good example of how far overboard they're going:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/08/30/joe-biden-tells-those-brave-right-wing-americans-again-theyll-need-an-f-15-to-take-on-the-government/

[French G.]

Ukraine and Afghanistan have put lie to that. Nicest equipment you can send out, operator gotta sleep sometime.

[WLJ]

This could fit into any of the Biden threads here. This one is as good as any.

F-15s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was talking to a left-leaning friend the other day, and he said he was getting sick of the Biden admins (and AOC's and others) over the top attacks on the right. I think he's not the only one. This is a pretty good example of how far overboard they're going:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/08/30/joe-biden-tells-those-brave-right-wing-americans-again-theyll-need-an-f-15-to-take-on-the-government/

When CNN is being called fascist right-wing propaganda you got to wonder where the line is drawn anymore and even many lefties should be asking where is this going?

[230RN]

I'm thinking about the timing before November... when will they pull which rabbit out of the hat?

Most of the time the rabbit involves putting the boots of our bravest, finest, smartest, most fit of our youngsters on foreign ground where people shoot back.

Two months to go.

I sometimes wonder if any among the 50-60 thousand military dead in Vietnam might have been somebody who would ultimately come up with a fusion power solution... or a 100% effective pill or vaccine against every kind of cancer, or fantastic items made from  stable superheavy elements, or....

Nap time.

Terry, Dedicated Wanderer Through Impossibilities, 230RN

REF:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_of_stability