Looks like Biden is Ready to Move on Gun Control

[Lennyjoe]

Looks like the FY 2023 Commerce, Justice, Science Appropriations bill has some interesting adds:


Looks like #4 is based on what they expect should these pass.

[WLJ]

Says possibly dropping in Dec

ATTENTION: Dept of Justice Says When ATF Pistol Brace Ban Will Drop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pban-jg9fk

[WLJ]

Nassau County NY app for a conceal carry permit
Be sitting down for what they require out of you, literally, starting at 1:51

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlrEXCcv8dY

[WLJ]

Starting Nov 16

Delaware sets dates for compensated confiscation of magazines
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2022/10/29/delaware-sets-dates-for-compensated-confiscation-of-magazines-n63767

[Hawkmoon]

Nassau County NY app for a conceal carry permit
Be sitting down for what they require out of you, literally, starting at 1:51

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlrEXCcv8dY

To add insult to injury, the link on the second page of that letter doesn't exist. The link is:
https://www.criminaljustice.ny.gov/FINAL NYSP-DCJS Minimum Standards for Firearm Safety Training 8-23-22.PDF

If you enter it in your browser with all the "%20" space fillers -- it won't work.

The class is 16 hours (so two days, plus a written test on which you must score at least 80%, PLUS 2 hours of live fire training, PLUS a live fire evaluation consisting of loading and firing five rounds at a distance of 4 yards at a target that's 25-1/2-inch by 11-inch. To pass you have to put 4 out of 5 shots on the paper.

[zxcvbob]

To add insult to injury, the link on the second page of that letter doesn't exist. The link is:
https://www.criminaljustice.ny.gov/FINAL NYSP-DCJS Minimum Standards for Firearm Safety Training 8-23-22.PDF

If you enter it in your browser with all the "%20" space fillers -- it won't work.

The class is 16 hours (so two days, plus a written test on which you must score at least 80%, PLUS 2 hours of live fire training, PLUS a live fire evaluation consisting of loading and firing five rounds at a distance of 4 yards at a target that's 25-1/2-inch by 11-inch. To pass you have to put 4 out of 5 shots on the paper.

Here's the document: https://troopers.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2022/08/final-nysp-dcjs-minimum-standards-for-firearm-safety-training-8-23-22.pdf

[Pb]

Requiring a permit for a right is nonsensical.  Permits for owning or carrying guns have absolutely no place in the "history and tradition" of gun ownership in the USA.  As long as permits are considered acceptable, RKBA can easily be nullified by garbage like this.

[WLJ]

They're trying to sneak 1808 in by attaching it as an amendment onto a spending bill in the senate

HEADS UP: Back Door, Last-Ditch Effort To Ban Rifles Underway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hik5IsI4Q8

[Ben]

I don't know if it's Biden or his handlers, but terminology seems to have changed.

"The idea we still allow semi-automatic weapons to be purchased is sick," said Biden. "It has no socially redeeming value… Not a single solitary rationale for it except profit for the gun manufacturers."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-more-gun-control-gop-takes-house-says-sick-allow-semi-automatic-weapon-sales

[WLJ]

I don't know if it's Biden or his handlers, but terminology seems to have changed.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-more-gun-control-gop-takes-house-says-sick-allow-semi-automatic-weapon-sales

Could have been Biden being being Biden but there has been an uptick in calls for banning all semi autos.

Related: Various gun control groups have started calling for all Glocks to be banned due to Glock switches being found on the street.

Guess cars are next since they can be converted to car bombs.

[Hawkmoon]

The Walmart shooter used a handgun, but Biden used that incident as another example of why we MUST ban semi-automatic rifles.

They're after ALL the guns ... there is no longer (if there ever was) any doubt about it.

[RoadKingLarry]

Could have been Biden being being Biden but there has been an uptick in calls for banning all semi autos.

Related: Various gun control groups have started calling for all Glocks to be banned due to Glock switches being found on the street.

Guess cars are next since they can be converted to car bombs.

Nobody needs a car capable of exceeding the highest legal speed limit in their jurisdiction.

[Boomhauer]

The Walmart shooter used a handgun, but Biden used that incident as another example of why we MUST ban semi-automatic rifles.

They're after ALL the guns ... there is no longer (if there ever was) any doubt about it.

I’ve said for years the moment semiautos are banned “High Powered Sniper Rifles” and “Deadly Street Sweepers” aka hunting rifles and shotguns will become the next targets

[WLJ]

I’ve said for years the moment semiautos are banned “High Powered Sniper Rifles” and “Deadly Street Sweepers” aka hunting rifles and shotguns will become the next targets

Any rifle with a scope is usually labeled "Sniper Rifle" by the media

[Ben]

Okay, something is going on with gov/MSM/activists regarding terminology. Here's another story that just says "long guns". Fox News is quoting, so it's not the conservative devils trying to deflect from "AR-15". Within the last couple of weeks, everything is now "semi-automatic rifles/guns" and "long guns". This has to be tied into Biden's slip of the tongue about banning all semi-autos and the big push for an AW ban before a 2023 congress takes over.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/maryland-gun-store-looted-black-friday-thieves-allegedly-took-long-guns

[WLJ]

Okay, something is going on with gov/MSM/activists regarding terminology. Here's another story that just says "long guns". Fox News is quoting, so it's not the conservative devils trying to deflect from "AR-15". Within the last couple of weeks, everything is now "semi-automatic rifles/guns" and "long guns". This has to be tied into Biden's slip of the tongue about banning all semi-autos and the big push for an AW ban before a 2023 congress takes over.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/maryland-gun-store-looted-black-friday-thieves-allegedly-took-long-guns

IMHO because they took mostly nothing but rifles using the term "long gun" seems appropriate in this case until we have a detail list of what type of rifles were taken especially considering thieves would often mostly target handguns in the past.
Don't get me wrong we can assume it was AR-15s and maybe AKs but I would rather the media use the term LG until we know for sure. Could even be a bunch of shotguns in the list.

[Ben]

IMHO because they took mostly nothing but rifles using the term "long gun" seems appropriate in this case until we have a detail list of what type of rifles were taken especially considering thieves would often mostly target handguns in the past.

Under normal circumstances, I would agree with this and even applaud the authorities/media for their accuracy (or generalization due to lack of data, depending on how you view it). There's something going on with how the antis are framing things now though, it seems to me to encompass many more guns besides ARs and Glocks as "evil". It just seems like a very sudden change in their terminology over the last couple of weeks.

[WLJ]

It just seems like a very sudden change in their terminology over the last couple of weeks.

I pointed out them using the term LG maybe at least two or three months ago in one of the shootings threads.

[Hawkmoon]

Okay, something is going on with gov/MSM/activists regarding terminology. Here's another story that just says "long guns". Fox News is quoting, so it's not the conservative devils trying to deflect from "AR-15". Within the last couple of weeks, everything is now "semi-automatic rifles/guns" and "long guns". This has to be tied into Biden's slip of the tongue about banning all semi-autos and the big push for an AW ban before a 2023 congress takes over.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/maryland-gun-store-looted-black-friday-thieves-allegedly-took-long-guns

I commented on that (somewhere) a couple of days ago. I noticed that, even after the rifle had been identified as an AR-15 "type" rifle, all the articles I saw on the Club Q shooting still said that the shooter used "a long gun." I know I've never met a conspiracy theory I didn't like, but I don't think this is a coincidence.

[Ben]

I commented on that (somewhere) a couple of days ago. I noticed that, even after the rifle had been identified as an AR-15 "type" rifle, all the articles I saw on the Club Q shooting still said that the shooter used "a long gun." I know I've never met a conspiracy theory I didn't like, but I don't think this is a coincidence.

Yup. I'm not doubting WLJ's catching this months ago, but I think a lot of us didn't, and suddenly over a few days I've seen a half dozen different media occurrences of this by media, politicians, and activists. It's like they all held a strategy meeting a couple of weeks ago, much as they seemed to have done with "Ultra/Mega MAGAs" and "extremists", where there seemed to, all at once, flood the MSM with those terms in a concerted and coordinated effort, versus just instances of the terms here and there.

[WLJ]

Now I remember without trying to find it but it was in one of the shootings threads.
I had noticed the media/libs/dems were all AGAIN calling for a ban on AR-15s when all that was being reported it was a LG and that was bugging me.

[French G.]

I have no moneys but damned if I don't want to buy another evil semiauto. On paper, on a credit card, ideally on local news covering increased gun sales.

[WLJ]

I have no moneys but damned if I don't want to buy another evil semiauto. On paper, on a credit card, ideally on local news covering increased gun sales.

Why did I read that at first as "I have no monkeys"?

[Ben]

Now I remember without trying to find it but it was in one of the shootings threads.
I had noticed the media/libs/dems were all AGAIN calling for a ban on AR-15s when all that was being reported it was a LG and that was bugging me.

And it's not even just "long guns", it's the whole sudden "all semi-autos". Which might be a strategy someone would use if they wanted to make it look like they were bargaining. "Hey, we have to ban ALL semi-autos, but just to make you rednecks happy how about we just ban ARs and you can keep your other guns (for now)."

It's the classic "pie" strategy they have always used on us. "Hey, you have this giant Costco sized pie, and we just want a sliver." Then we say, "Oh, okay then." The next time around, instead of showing us the Costco pie with the sliver removed, they just show us a smaller whole pie and say, "Hey, you have this whole pie, and we just want a sliver..."

[WLJ]

If you've been watching the "assault weapon" ban bills closely you'll see some of them would effectively ban most semi-autos with their wording.
Things like a semi-auto that can accept a larger than 10rd magazine or be converted to accept more than 10rds. You can convert anything.

I would have to go back and look but I think 1808 has wording similar to this.