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Re: Guess what's racist/white supremacy now
« Reply #225 on: November 19, 2021, 12:48:30 AM »

An event where a black Republican speaker shares a stage with D Trump Jr is also racist, apparently.

http://conservativeangle.com/conservative-pac-cancels-event-with-trump-jr-after-jpmorgan-chase-subsidiary-cuts-ties-with-group-then-backpedals/

I like the fact that our state treasurer looks, talks, and dresses like Roy, from The Office.  :rofl:

https://youtu.be/uEUFCo2AiU0
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Re: Guess what's racist/white supremacy now
« Reply #226 on: November 26, 2021, 09:37:56 AM »

I guess it's just as well to put this here vs starting a new thread.

The Salvation Army has gone woke for their biggest donation period of the year, which I suspect will now be much smaller. They have put out a new "racism guide". It's apparently aimed at the SA itself, versus the people who donate to them, but you would think they would have learned a lesson from the big corporations who do this, demanding their white employees apologize for being white. Once it gets out they do this internally, a lot of people will be turned off by the organization, and I would submit that the vast majority of dollars dropped in the holiday kettles come from white bread white people. Progressive white people hate the SA, and I think the minority contributions are a pretty small percentage.

I used to write a big check to the SA every Thanksgiving (actually credit card on their website), but haven't done so for a few years now because I already didn't like how they seemed to have started concentrating the general donation funds to substance abuse. Not to be callous, but I prefer my charity money go to people who are in dire straights through no fault of their own. I have still been dropping C-notes in the local kettles during the holidays, but I think I'm going to cut that off too.

I've already been switching my contributions to local charities, and I think now I will be doing that 100%. I can choose organizations for which I can get on the ground data, and know the funds are going to good deeds by people who don't cave to loudmouths on social media.

It's too bad. I have always liked that the SA used their money much more efficiently than organizations like the Red Cross, who spend half their donations on donor parties.

https://justthenews.com/nation/hold-fri-salvation-army-once-known-straightforward-seasonal-charity-caves-blm-ideology?utm_medium=social_media&utm_source=twitter_social_icon&utm_campaign=social_icons
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Re: Guess what's racist/white supremacy now
« Reply #227 on: November 26, 2021, 10:20:12 AM »

( ^ Heh, heh.  Maybe you should have started a new thread.  A possibly hot-button, triggering, subject.)

Quite a while ago, after being disgusted with the abuses of most of the large charities, I adopted a policy of finding my own (local) needy folks and contributing to my church with instructions to the Deacon to advance that amount to the folks I had found on my own.  This had the dual benefit of maintaining my anonymity and "making points" for the Church.

The one exception to this was at work where the United Fund campaign was guilting everybody into 100% departmental contributions, and I found among the listed United Fund charities one I felt was "reliable" so I could designate them as the recipient.

So I'd throw in a couple of bucks with that designation to satisfy the 100% departmental United Fund bullshit.

Nowadays I severely limit any contributions, especially to foreign charities.  This, on the theory that they should solve their own damned problems; we have our own damned problems to worry about.

Gettin' a little tougher about charities in my old age and dotage, I am, I am.

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Correction: United Fund should be United Way.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2021, 11:42:03 AM by 230RN »

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Re: Guess what's racist/white supremacy now
« Reply #228 on: November 26, 2021, 10:27:03 AM »

I've not seen anything like that from my local chapter of The Salvation Army.  There's nothing about it on their web site...

I guess I will need to ask them about it before renewing the monthly checks I have my bank send them for another year (sent to the local office, not their corporate office)
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Re: Guess what's racist/white supremacy now
« Reply #229 on: November 26, 2021, 10:33:15 AM »

The one exception to this was at work where the United Fund campaign was guilting everybody into 100% departmental contributions, and I found among the listed United Fund charities one I felt was "reliable" so I could designate them as the recipient.

So I'd throw in a couple of bucks with that designation to satisfy the 100% departmental United Fund bullshit.

When I was new to the company, I let them bully me into giving $5 to the United Way campaign so they could claim 100% participation.  And I hated myself afterwards for allowing myself to be taken advantage of like that.  (the company wanted us to put-up the money so they could claim they donated it; I assume not for tax purposes but for PR)  I never donated to United Way again.
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Re: Guess what's racist/white supremacy now
« Reply #230 on: November 26, 2021, 10:42:14 AM »

I've not seen anything like that from my local chapter of The Salvation Army.  There's nothing about it on their web site...

I guess I will need to ask them about it before renewing the monthly checks I have my bank send them for another year (sent to the local office, not their corporate office)

This is the internal document:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/cache.salvationarmy.org/e0c074e3-39db-4b09-a6ea-aa5bdb6ecaa6_Let%2527s%2520Talk%2520About...%2520Racism%2520COMPLETE%2520SET.pdf

It could very well be that local chapters will ignore the "corporate" policy, much like my local Costco seems to ignore their corporate "no guns" policy. If I read or hear something from the local SA on this, I might change my mind about the kettles, but I'm still sticking to "no money to the national site" for now.
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Re: Guess what's racist/white supremacy now
« Reply #231 on: November 26, 2021, 11:17:29 AM »

When I was new to the company, I let them bully me into giving $5 to the United Way campaign so they could claim 100% participation.  And I hated myself afterwards for allowing myself to be taken advantage of like that.  (the company wanted us to put-up the money so they could claim they donated it; I assume not for tax purposes but for PR)  I never donated to United Way again.
This is eerily similar to my experience when I first joined the workforce.

. . . I found among the listed United Fund charities one I felt was "reliable" so I could designate them as the recipient.

So I'd throw in a couple of bucks with that designation to satisfy the 100% departmental United Fund bullshit.
Designating your donation to go to a specific UW charity doesn't mean much. If UW was going to give Charity A $100, and you designated your $10 donation to go to A  . . . . well, YOUR money will go there, but they'll shift $10 of the original $100 somewhere else. So A gets the same $100 planned before you donated your money.

Sad to hear the Salvation Army is going woke. My Dad and two uncles on my Mom's side of the family - all WW2 vets - all had good things to say about the SA. On the flip side, all three of them had difficulty talking about the Red Cross without a lot of profanity.
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Re: Guess what's racist/white supremacy now
« Reply #232 on: November 26, 2021, 06:49:29 PM »

This is the internal document:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/cache.salvationarmy.org/e0c074e3-39db-4b09-a6ea-aa5bdb6ecaa6_Let%2527s%2520Talk%2520About...%2520Racism%2520COMPLETE%2520SET.pdf

It could very well be that local chapters will ignore the "corporate" policy, much like my local Costco seems to ignore their corporate "no guns" policy. If I read or hear something from the local SA on this, I might change my mind about the kettles, but I'm still sticking to "no money to the national site" for now.

I saw a great comment on breitbart:
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I guess what they're saying is... Instead of putting money in those buckets this year - drop in a little note that says 'I'm Sorry'.

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Re: Guess what's racist/white supremacy now
« Reply #233 on: November 27, 2021, 09:09:27 AM »

I listened to some debate this morning that might have me moderating my thoughts on the SA and possibly still putting money in a local kettle, It does seem something happened at their national level that made local chapters unhappy regarding the blowback from this. It was suggested (no proof) that national SA might have, like so many corporations and large organizations, hired a "diversity and inclusion" executive that needed something to do.
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Re: Guess what's racist/white supremacy now
« Reply #234 on: November 27, 2021, 11:16:49 AM »

I listened to some debate this morning that might have me moderating my thoughts on the SA and possibly still putting money in a local kettle, It does seem something happened at their national level that made local chapters unhappy regarding the blowback from this. It was suggested (no proof) that national SA might have, like so many corporations and large organizations, hired a "diversity and inclusion" executive that needed something to do.

Until  the national un-hires their "diversity and inclusion" executive, the SA is off my list.

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Re: Guess what's racist/white supremacy now
« Reply #235 on: November 27, 2021, 02:37:12 PM »

. . . It was suggested (no proof) that national SA might have, like so many corporations and large organizations, hired a "diversity and inclusion" executive that needed something to do.
Reminds me of when the local rag still had a website where people could debate one another and the paper's editorial writers. One weekend the topic was how to save money in local schools - I wrote a short note the gist of which was concentrate on academics - and start by firing every employee who had the word "diversity" as part of their job title or job description. To the horror of staffers, this opinion gained several times more support than the contrary opinion, which was that we needed more diversity pros.

Because of this and many, many other instances where the readership and editorial staff parted ways, the paper discontinued their forums.
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Re: Guess what's racist/white supremacy now
« Reply #236 on: November 28, 2021, 08:49:57 AM »

HankB said,

"Because of this and many, many other instances where the readership and editorial staff parted ways, the paper discontinued their forums."

The very same thing happened with The Rocky Mountin News in Denver maybe 15 years ago. I guess the publishers forgot that while there is a Freedom of the press, there's also a freedom of the public.

I remember back in New York every once in a while the New York Daily News would  have a letter to the editor that either started or ended with "I'll bet you don't publish this."

I always thought that was funny and I wondered how many "I'll bet you don't publish this" letters they actually got.

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Re: Guess what's racist/white supremacy now
« Reply #237 on: November 30, 2021, 10:45:01 PM »

Is defenestration possible through the overton window?
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