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Woke corporatism
« on: April 05, 2021, 05:08:57 PM »

With the new Georgia voting regs and all the hue and cry by Coke, Delta, et al., I'm left to wonder yet again, where the hell is this woke corporatism coming from?  Some thoughts I've had:

-The boards of these corps have come up through the "system" of the last couple of decades and they're a leading indicator of the population.  (We're f__ked)

-They've done the math, and there are just more of the woke than there are of the rest of us, and corps are just chasing the money.  (We're f__ked)

-These corps see the writing on the wall and are trying to curry favor with what they see to be the power and glory, all in hopes of being eaten last.  (Not sure who's f__ked, but it probably includes us)

-They're hostage to some outspoken component of their employees.  (We might be a little less f__ked)

This is something I struggle with.  You expect students and journalists to be commies, but why would the very beneficiaries of capitalism jump into this cultural marxist race to oblivion.

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Re: Woke corporatism
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2021, 05:27:54 PM »

I have no answer, though I'm somewhat alarmed at how many of the big corps are going full woke, at least on the social media. Most of the "mainstream" corps have always been mostly fence sitters, tossing money to both Rs and Ds as they worked to create profit for their shareholders. Now the shareholders seem to be last in line. They are happily folding to people, many of whom, will never use their product anyway.

The biggest new corps (Google, Apple, Amazon, Facebook, etc) I believe are certainly "hostage" to their employees, and part of that is that their leadership are of the same age/ilk as the woke employees. There was a time no corp would put up with the SJW demands we see practically daily from the employees of big tech. They would have been unceremoniously shown the door.

I don't know why the big non-tech corps are folding so fast and furiously. I'm sure the MSM helps with that.
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Re: Woke corporatism
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2021, 05:55:16 PM »

I see it as a combination of key factors.

-The largest groups don't necessarily speak the loudest voice. Those voices usually come from zealots, hardcore devotees, and fringe elements. Unfortunately, younger generations have been conditioned to equate louder with larger.

-The silent majority grew up with hardships, learning to accept what they couldn't change with a quiet grace. Unfortunately, this acceptance has morphed into a "we've lost, why bother" mindset. Throw in the predators, the most energetic and least ethical of generations brought up to believe that feelings mean everything, and that their feelings mean more than anyone else's. They're accustomed to demanding change simply because it suits their twisted perceptions, and to get their way when they do. Toss it all into a pot where the predators tend to control more widespread sources of information dissemination, that being social media and online news, and you have the appearance that they are the majority.

-This younger generation also tends to be more possession-oriented. They spend every cent they make on "stuff", buying ridiculous quantities of luxury items and non-essentials. Luxury items and non-essentials tend to have very high profit margins. So, you have a big chunk of the population buying high-margin items in large quantities. That draws companies to the demographic like buzzards to a carcass, making them very receptive to their demands even when those demands may not represent a population majority.

Ultimately we end up where we are now. Corporations just go where the dollars lead. Giving in to the loudest voices because the see those voices has having the deepest pockets. Until the silent majority begins to speak up, fight back, use the shrillsters' tactics against them, and generally bitch-slap the corporations with dollar signs, the corporations will continue to capitulate.

TL:DR version... we're f__ked because our politeness, understanding, and economic thrift were weaponized against us by people who don't give a crap about anyone but themselves.  Corporations simply followed the money, or at least where they perceive the most money is available. The only way to unf__k it is to adopt the tactics of our enemy and beat them at their own game.

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« Last Edit: April 05, 2021, 06:14:56 PM by Brad Johnson »
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Re: Woke corporatism
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2021, 07:21:38 PM »

I see it as a combination of key factors.

-The largest groups don't necessarily speak the loudest voice. Those voices usually come from zealots, hardcore devotees, and fringe elements. Unfortunately, younger generations have been conditioned to equate louder with larger.

-The silent majority grew up with hardships, learning to accept what they couldn't change with a quiet grace. Unfortunately, this acceptance has morphed into a "we've lost, why bother" mindset. Throw in the predators, the most energetic and least ethical of generations brought up to believe that feelings mean everything, and that their feelings mean more than anyone else's. They're accustomed to demanding change simply because it suits their twisted perceptions, and to get their way when they do. Toss it all into a pot where the predators tend to control more widespread sources of information dissemination, that being social media and online news, and you have the appearance that they are the majority.

-This younger generation also tends to be more possession-oriented. They spend every cent they make on "stuff", buying ridiculous quantities of luxury items and non-essentials. Luxury items and non-essentials tend to have very high profit margins. So, you have a big chunk of the population buying high-margin items in large quantities. That draws companies to the demographic like buzzards to a carcass, making them very receptive to their demands even when those demands may not represent a population majority.

Ultimately we end up where we are now. Corporations just go where the dollars lead. Giving in to the loudest voices because the see those voices has having the deepest pockets. Until the silent majority begins to speak up, fight back, use the shrillsters' tactics against them, and generally bitch-slap the corporations with dollar signs, the corporations will continue to capitulate.

TL:DR version... we're f__ked because our politeness, understanding, and economic thrift were weaponized against us by people who don't give a crap about anyone but themselves.  Corporations simply followed the money, or at least where they perceive the most money is available. The only way to unf__k it is to adopt the tactics of our enemy and beat them at their own game.

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You're probably right, but their calculus doesn't make sense to me.  Boomers have all the money, and for the most part we're not the ones throwing hissy fits of Wokeism.

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-They're hostage to some outspoken component of their employees.  (We might be a little less f__ked)

I don't think that's it.  Big corporations don't give a rat's ass about the employees.  They don't really care that much about the stockholders.  They care about executive bonuses.
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Re: Woke corporatism
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2021, 07:46:28 PM »

Alienating a third of the adult population doesn't seem like a great marketing plan.

I suspect they have been told they have to do it and if it impacts the bottom line too hard they will get free money from the government.

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Re: Woke corporatism
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2021, 08:33:19 PM »

One thing I've learned from woke-ism is that I'm too white to drink Coke products.
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Re: Woke corporatism
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2021, 09:02:16 PM »

I think it is partly class.  The class of people that populate the upper levels and board of directors of many of these corps believe in the woke crap.  None of them will stick their nose out and go against the leftist talking points.  Everyone they know agrees with it.  These are generally not the same people that build new companies from the ground up. 

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Re: Woke corporatism
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2021, 09:45:36 PM »


Boomers have all the money, and for the most part we're not the ones throwing hissy fits of Wokeism.


Agreed on both counts. Best I can come up with is the distinction of net profit. Amortize the two groups' spending and the Boomers spend slightly more, but tends heavily towards infrequent purchases of big ticket items with modest profit margins. Younger generations spend less, but their money goes towards trendy, fashionable, luxury lifestyle products with stratospheric margins and life cycles measured in months, not years.

I also agree with Mech that a lot of people in the upper echelons who've lost track of how the world beyond their corporate walls works.

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Re: Woke corporatism
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2021, 10:09:36 PM »

I think it is partly class.  The class of people that populate the upper levels and board of directors of many of these corps believe in the woke crap.  None of them will stick their nose out and go against the leftist talking points.  Everyone they know agrees with it.  These are generally not the same people that build new companies from the ground up.

This makes as much sense as most things.  One would think though, as cynical as these corps would/should be, that they would "focus group" the *expletive deleted*it out of these things prior to stepping on fragile anatomy items.  If it's pure profit motive, I can only guess that simply shutting the f__K up would alienate maybe 1% of our side and maybe 10% of the most virulent of their side, leaving everybody else happily buying their *expletive deleted*it.

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Re: Woke corporatism
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2021, 10:33:21 PM »

Coordination throughout all industries and government happened organically because they are all of the same class?

It's more likely the world is run on blackmail and extortion. They have to obey and will be rewarded for obeying.

There is nothing organic about the destruction of the country, it's proceeding as planned.



 
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2021, 09:13:09 AM »

I debated whether to start a new thread or not, but it seems like this fits here.  MLB has moved the All Star Game from GA to CO, but ooops, CO has about the same voter laws already on the books that are similar to the ones just passed by GA.


https://dailycaller.com/2021/04/05/major-league-baseball-all-star-game-colorado-georgia/
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Re: Woke corporatism
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2021, 09:26:33 AM »

My guess is that we are witnessing a centralized orchestration of social engineering. It's not a secret that a handful of people own pretty much everything, and it's not to far fetched that they would agree on what human society should be like, and try to force it down our throats.  "Wokeness" leads to a dilution of personal, social, racial, national identity which makes it posible for a central global authority to take form and be accepted.

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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2021, 09:39:17 AM »

Soon wokeness will have it's Disco Demolition Night* moment

*For those not familiar with Disco Demolition Night
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Re: Woke corporatism
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2021, 09:40:56 AM »

My guess is that we are witnessing a centralized orchestration of social engineering. It's not a secret that a handful of people own pretty much everything, and it's not to far fetched that they agree on what society should be like, and try to force it down our throats.  "Wokeness" leads to a dilution of personal, social, racial, national identity which makes it posible for a central global authority to take form and be accepted.

Because I think what Blakenzy said has some validity, a sad tangent: We have always been known as a country filled with not only independent people, but people who always rooted for the underdog. If we saw someone being bullied, we stepped in and worried about why they were being bullied later. If someone told us what to do, we said, "Why?". Now we say, "Yes sir". By "us" and "we" I of course mean the masses. There is certainly still a strong contingent of "us" that will tell them to FRO.

Now we are becoming the opposite of what we were. These woke people don't want to be, or are afraid to be independent of thought and go against the crowd. People no longer root for the underdog, they pile on to the underdog.
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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2021, 09:46:38 AM »

Now we are becoming the opposite of what we were. These woke people don't want to be, or are afraid to be independent of thought and go against the crowd. People no longer root for the underdog, they pile on to the underdog.

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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2021, 11:13:32 AM »

A lot of it is the corps. trying to not be the next target of the rage mob. Kinda like a driver honking for the BLM protests so they don’t get a brick through their window. Also the trendy thing in PR, used to be all about the greenwash but now enviros are backseats to the wokerati. And the PR people are products of the colleges fomenting this tripe.
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Re: Woke corporatism
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2021, 12:32:46 PM »

A lot of it is the corps. trying to not be the next target of the rage mob. Kinda like a driver honking for the BLM protests so they don’t get a brick through their window. Also the trendy thing in PR, used to be all about the greenwash but now enviros are backseats to the wokerati. And the PR people are products of the colleges fomenting this tripe.

Yet by now they should know that the rage mob is a vocal minority that more often than not does not use their product or service anyway.
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« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2021, 02:31:33 PM »

Yet by now they should know that the rage mob is a vocal minority that more often than not does not use their product or service anyway.

And also learn that it's impossible to be woke enough to appease the SJWs, the SJWs will always found some new woke issue to attack you over. It's  the only reason they get up in the morning afternoon evening
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