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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2021, 08:55:12 PM »

She can't be serious? Oh wait, it's Rashida Tlaib, she is.
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I’m in support of this. Then we can start hanging thieves and woodchippering pedos without anybody to save them.
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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2021, 10:55:04 AM »

On the lady officer who shot the driver in Minnesota, has anyone heard how much experience she had?  I heard she had 20+ years as an officer, but I was curious how much patrol experience she had? (or how recent).  I imagine some of those departments are short handed these days, but that may not be relevant in this case. 
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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2021, 11:31:57 AM »

On the lady officer who shot the driver in Minnesota, has anyone heard how much experience she had?  I heard she had 20+ years as an officer, but I was curious how much patrol experience she had? (or how recent).  I imagine some of those departments are short handed these days, but that may not be relevant in this case.

Quick Google Shows that she had 26 years at the same department.  She was a FTO at the time of the traffic stop, previous president of the union, she and other officers received a Medal of Merit for their response in a house fire.
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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2021, 12:42:52 PM »

There have been other incidents of officers grabbing the service pistol when they intended to use the Taser. The one in the California subway station a couple of years ago was the most highly publicized but there have been others. I thought after that California incident it had become S.O.P. for cops to always wear the Taser on the weak-hand side to avoid this type of incident, but I guess that department didn't get the memo.

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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2021, 02:04:54 PM »

There have been other incidents of officers grabbing the service pistol when they intended to use the Taser. The one in the California subway station a couple of years ago was the most highly publicized but there have been others. I thought after that California incident it had become S.O.P. for cops to always wear the Taser on the weak-hand side to avoid this type of incident, but I guess that department didn't get the memo.

I heard an audio clip from the previous chief stating that Taser's were worn on the weak side.


Video of incident:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AP5maXmAwc  You can see the one officer has the taser to the weak side.
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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2021, 02:46:03 PM »

FWIW: https://archive.fo/0BJsb

The lady cop is being charged with second degree manslaughter

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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2021, 03:08:24 PM »

FWIW: https://archive.fo/0BJsb

The lady cop is being charged with second degree manslaughter

In the meantime, we don't even know this guy's name, but he's off the hook:

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The U.S. Capitol Police officer who shot dead an Air Force veteran during the tumultuous events on Jan. 6 will not be charged, the Department of Justice (DOJ) announced Wednesday.

The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia and the DOJ’s Civil Rights Division decided jointly not to pursue charges against the officer.

The decision came after a “thorough investigation” into the shooting of Ashli Babbitt, a 35-year-old who joined others in storming the U.S. Capitol in Washington during a joint session of Congress in January. Babbitt was shot while trying to climb through a broken window into the Speaker’s Lobby, adjacent to the House chamber.

“Officials examined video footage posted on social media, statements from the officer involved and other officers and witnesses to the events, physical evidence from the scene of the shooting, and the results of an autopsy,” the DOJ said in a statement.

“Based on that investigation, officials determined that there is insufficient evidence to support a criminal prosecution.”

https://www.theepochtimes.com/no-charges-against-officer-who-shot-ashli-babbitt-doj_3776023.html
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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2021, 04:48:58 PM »

In the meantime, we don't even know this guy's name, but he's off the hook:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/no-charges-against-officer-who-shot-ashli-babbitt-doj_3776023.html

No charges??  Time to riot!!










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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2021, 07:32:44 PM »

In the meantime, we don't even know this guy's name, but he's off the hook:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/no-charges-against-officer-who-shot-ashli-babbitt-doj_3776023.html

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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2021, 07:43:55 PM »


"We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics."
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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2021, 08:21:20 PM »

FWIW: https://archive.fo/0BJsb

The lady cop is being charged with second degree manslaughter

Here is the video.

I had to watch it several times as I never did hear the shot, saw a muzzle flash or recoil.

Maybe they edited the kill shot out? Doesn't seem like a gap is there though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVH6q0ul72A

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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2021, 08:47:32 PM »

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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2021, 10:01:01 PM »

In the meantime, we don't even know this guy's name, but he's off the hook:

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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2021, 02:32:58 PM »

At this moment I think it's 50/50 whether Chauvin walks. His defense hasn't been as tight as say, George Zimmerman. But i'm also not following as close.

We might get looting even if he's convicted on Manslaughter, *just because*
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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2021, 03:17:17 PM »

At this moment I think it's 50/50 whether Chauvin walks. His defense hasn't been as tight as say, George Zimmerman. But i'm also not following as close.

We might get looting even if he's convicted on Manslaughter, *just because*

Legal Insurrection has had some really good analysis.

https://legalinsurrection.com/author/law-of-self-defense/
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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2021, 03:29:58 PM »

We might get looting even if he's convicted on Manslaughter, *just because*

I think we're going to get looting no matter the verdict even if 1st degree murder and the chair "just because"
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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2021, 04:59:42 PM »

I think we're going to get looting no matter the verdict even if 1st degree murder and the chair "just because"
Yep.  And either now or pretty quick, all the professional rioters and activists are in town.
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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2021, 05:05:58 PM »

Yep.  And either now or pretty quick, all the professional rioters and activists are in town.

Hearing ANTIFA is in town in force.
Also hearing them and BLM are not getting along so this could be a very interesting next week or month or whatever
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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2021, 08:00:38 PM »

If it is a mistrial it will be looting for sure. but it will be mostly nonpeaceful.
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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2021, 09:15:04 PM »

Hearing ANTIFA is in town in force.
Also hearing them and BLM are not getting along so this could be a very interesting next week or month or whatever

I'd like nothing more than to see the residents go Northfield MN vs the James-Younger gang on the lot of them.
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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2021, 09:35:28 PM »

And to add to the mess

In several fateful seconds, video appears to show 13-year-old Adam Toledo toss gun, turn with empty hands raised before Chicago cop fires fatal shot (warning: graphic content)
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-police-adam-toledo-shooting-video-released-20210415-xn63playebasld36oulootdq6i-story.html#nt=pf-double%20chain~top-news-chain-1~flex%20feature~curated~toledo-video-thu-230p~XN63PLAYEBASLD36OULOOTDQ6I~1~1~1~4~art%20yes

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot warns Chicagoans to brace themselves for footage of 13-year-old being shot by police
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/04/15/chicago-mayor-lori-lightfoot-warns-chicagoans-to-brace-themselves-for-footage-of-13-year-old-being-shot-by-police/

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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #47 on: April 16, 2021, 07:38:15 AM »

And to add to the mess

In several fateful seconds, video appears to show 13-year-old Adam Toledo toss gun, turn with empty hands raised before Chicago cop fires fatal shot (warning: graphic content)
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-police-adam-toledo-shooting-video-released-20210415-xn63playebasld36oulootdq6i-story.html#nt=pf-double%20chain~top-news-chain-1~flex%20feature~curated~toledo-video-thu-230p~XN63PLAYEBASLD36OULOOTDQ6I~1~1~1~4~art%20yes

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot warns Chicagoans to brace themselves for footage of 13-year-old being shot by police
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/04/15/chicago-mayor-lori-lightfoot-warns-chicagoans-to-brace-themselves-for-footage-of-13-year-old-being-shot-by-police/

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There was an interview with the former Police Chief of Chicago, he pointed out that according to the time stamps in the video that the dropping of the gun and his turning happened in under 1 second before the officer fired.

2:30 am, police respond to "shots fired", have to chase two suspects one of whom has a gun in his hand, within literally a split second the cop had to make a choice as the suspect stops and turns around.

Good shoot in my book.

You don't get the benefit of the doubt if you are armed, running away from the cops down a dark alley at 2:30 in the morning after a "shots fired" police response.





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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #48 on: April 16, 2021, 08:15:16 AM »

You don't get the benefit of the doubt if you are armed, running away from the cops down a dark alley at 2:30 in the morning after a "shots fired" police response.

Yeah, the Mayor and others are treating him like an innocent angel. He and his friend were involved in criminal activity involving firearms. You can also about see the smart ass "I'm getting away with it" expression on his face in the video.

"We" did not fail Adam Toledo (as said by Lightfoot). Adam Toledo's parents failed him, and Adam Toledo failed himself.
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Re: Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict
« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2021, 10:04:37 AM »

Yeah, the Mayor and others are treating him like an innocent angel. He and his friend were involved in criminal activity involving firearms. You can also about see the smart ass "I'm getting away with it" expression on his face in the video.

"We" did not fail Adam Toledo (as said by Lightfoot). Adam Toledo's parents failed him, and Adam Toledo failed himself.
He would have been out of jail on a no cash bail bond within a day or two.
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