Preparing For the Derek Chauvin Verdict

[WLJ]

I picked the wrong week to stop stiffing glue

[Ben]

Anyone want to bet the murder rate in the USA continues to spiral upwards, with police refusing to confront criminals?

We're seriously heading into Mad Max (as in, the first Mad Max movie) territory on this stuff.

[Pb]

Are we now suppose to issue patents based on race?

Yes.  Yes of course.

[WLJ]

We're seriously heading into Mad Max (as in, the first Mad Max movie) territory on this stuff.

I think we're skipping the first and going straight into the second

[WLJ]

Dragging his now ex-wife into this

Who is Derek Chauvin’s beauty queen ex-wife Kellie and where is she now? | New York Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F80OqjDXcqg

[dogmush]

Dragging his now ex-wife into this

Who is Derek Chauvin’s beauty queen ex-wife Kellie and where is she now? | New York Post
https://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php#c1

She's hiding on APS?

[WLJ]

She's hiding on APS?

Peril of having multiple tabs open is that I will sometimes select the wrong one to copy and paste from. Fixed

[Angel Eyes]

There's a very real chance that BLM would kill them if the verdict was not guilty.

https://babylonbee.com/news/jurors-read-their-final-will-before-giving-verdict

[Angel Eyes]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/minneapolis-george-floyd-square-special-instructions-white-people

[WLJ]

Someone should attach a copy of his criminal record and the medical report on his death.

[Ben]

Funny how the majority of text on the sign is dedicated to berating white people versus "honoring" Floyd.

[Angel Eyes]

Someone should attach a copy of his criminal record and the medical report on his death.

That would be racist.

 

[JTHunter]

We're seriously heading into Mad Max (as in, the first Mad Max movie) territory on this stuff.

Especially when "Mad Max" is already out there telling people to be more "confrontational". 

[Hawkmoon]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/minneapolis-george-floyd-square-special-instructions-white-people

Cool. Why am I not surprised?

Since Floyd’s death, the area has been converted into an "autonomous zone" that’s brought record levels of violent crime and gun violence to the neighborhood.

Concrete barricades set up by Minneapolis last year to protect demonstrations from traffic now act as the barriers to an "autonomous zone" co-opted by armed individuals declaring law enforcement unwelcome, as gang activity, drug dealing and gun violence have disrupted local business operations.

[Perd Hapley]

The judicial process is too far gone that a couple honest folks participating will help.  *expletive deleted*ck 'em. Stay far, far away.   FWIW, I came to this conclusion back around Zimmerman's trial.  Trials are just public spectacles for the mob now, and I'll not risk being caught in that circus.

Don't jury decisions require unanimity to convict? Don't they need every juror to agree on a guilty verdict?

Granted, it's Joe Biden's un-America, so maybe they'll find some way around that. Still, until that happens, isn't a jury, so far, still a place where one person really can make a difference?

[Jim147]

If the rest of the jury says they know who you are and are going to come to your house and make sure you decide the "right way". What are you going to do?

[dogmush]

Don't jury decisions require unanimity to convict? Don't they need every juror to agree on a guilty verdict?

Granted, it's Joe Biden's un-America, so maybe they'll find some way around that. Still, until that happens, isn't a jury, so far, still a place where one person really can make a difference?

No.  If the mob has decided to destroy someone in one of these media show trials a single juror can force a mistrial by throwing themselves on the pyre, but that is a difference without a distinction.  You would sacrifice your happiness and ability to live peacefully (and perhaps even live) and the state will just try them again with a new set of suckers that have the correct script.  On the off chance that you are an amazing orator, and talk the other 11 into joining you in martyrdom an acquittal in a trial like this just means that the "innocent" party can flee to some sparsely habited corner of the county and cower until one of the mob recognizes and attacks (or doxes) them.

Once the Twitter mob has decided that any particular case and trial is their meal du jour, justice as an outcome has left the building and the only sane thing to do is stay as far away as possible.

[WLJ]

Lou Raguse
@LouRaguse
I just had a fascinating sit-down interview with one of the alternate jurors in the Derek Chauvin trial.

Lisa Christensen was the juror who lived in Brooklyn Center. One night she could hardly make it home after testimony ended because of protesters blocking intersections.

Daniel Horowitz
@RMConservative
One juror: "I did not want to go through rioting and destruction again and I was concerned about people coming to my house if they were not happy with the verdict."

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/04/23/i-was-concerned-they-would-come-to-my-house-thread-covering-sit-down-interview-with-alternate-juror-in-chauvin-trial-incredibly-damning/

[sumpnz]

^^^ Appeals court will overturn the verdict on that statement alone.  Or, at least if rule of law is even given so much a pretend moment of being in effect.

[Ben]

^^^ Appeals court will overturn the verdict on that statement alone.  Or, at least if rule of law is even given so much a pretend moment of being in effect.

And if they do overturn it, people will be coming to her home for saying that. They might come to her home regardless for saying that.

[Perd Hapley]

If the rest of the jury says they know who you are and are going to come to your house and make sure you decide the "right way". What are you going to do?

I know what I ought to do. So do you - the right thing, and damn the consequences. We know that's the correct answer. We're just trying to convince ourselves it's OK to fold. Not just here, but all over the country. It's disturbing.

[dogmush]

I'm not folding, I'm refusing to participate in a rigged game. 

THAT'S the correct thing to do.  Refuse to lend any sense of credibility to mob driven spectacles.  Remember, we are talking specifically about a high profile racially charged trial "like this one".  The mob has learned it's OK to eat dissenters, just don't participate.

[Ron]

I'm not folding, I'm refusing to participate in a rigged game. 

THAT'S the correct thing to do.  Refuse to lend any sense of credibility to mob driven spectacles.  Remember, we are talking specifically about a high profile racially charged trial "like this one".  The mob has learned it's OK to eat dissenters, just don't participate.

Sad but true statement.

Time to stop pretending that there is any legitimacy in our institutions.

I'm not sure what that looks like in practice but opting out of the matrix of lies wherever possible is a good start.

 

[Perd Hapley]

I'm not folding, I'm refusing to participate in a rigged game. 

THAT'S the correct thing to do.  Refuse to lend any sense of credibility to mob driven spectacles.  Remember, we are talking specifically about a high profile racially charged trial "like this one".  The mob has learned it's OK to eat dissenters, just don't participate.

Exactly the kind of rationalization I was talking about. This has nothing to do with whether or not we dignify the proceedings with our vaunted presence.

We complain it's a rigged, illegitimate proceedings, yet if handed the opportunity to veto the result with a single vote, we won't do it. This about having the chance to defend the rule of law in this country by a single vote.

[dogmush]

Exactly the kind of rationalization I was talking about. This has nothing to do with whether or not we dignify the proceedings with our vaunted presence.

We complain it's a rigged, illegitimate proceedings, yet if handed the opportunity to veto the result with a single vote, we won't do it. This about having the chance to defend the rule of law in this country by a single vote.

That's not how it works.  A single vote doesn't veto *expletive deleted*it.  It just causes a mistrial, the state runs it again and gets the verdict they were looking for, and you get doxxed, lose your job, and put your family in danger for......nothing.  A single vote doesn't uphold the rule of law, it makes you a nail to be hammered down.

Are you under the impression that a single juror refusing to convict means an acquittal?