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Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« on: April 29, 2021, 05:54:03 PM »

Ashli Babbitt's family is suing the Capitol Police as well as the officer who killed her. I'm not saying the lawsuit is right or wrong. I was going to post about how long it would take for the left to suddenly make cops heroes again, but I can't ask that question, because they are already dissing her family for suing a hero.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/04/29/that-officer-was-a-hero-family-of-ashli-babbitt-to-sue-unidentified-capitol-police-officer-who-shot-her/
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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2021, 06:23:50 PM »

I have never made a study, but I wonder if a civil claim is made in just about every police shooting, especially those that appear unjustified.
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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2021, 06:30:44 PM »

I have never made a study, but I wonder if a civil claim is made in just about every police shooting, especially those that appear unjustified.

I'm wondering if the Capitol Police have special immunity regarding this compared to local LE. There was already some protection for the officer's identity that is not the case for local LE.
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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2021, 06:35:48 PM »

I'm wondering if the Capitol Police have special immunity regarding this compared to local LE. There was already some protection for the officer's identity that is not the case for local LE.

The special protection is he’s a Hero of the Soviet Union for shooting an unarmed white conservative woman instead of a racist city cop who murders armed lifelong criminals who are turning their lives around

The media isn’t dare gonna dox a hero like that.
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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2021, 06:36:35 PM »

Ashli Babbitt's family is suing the Capitol Police as well as the officer who killed her. I'm not saying the lawsuit is right or wrong. I was going to post about how long it would take for the left to suddenly make cops heroes again, but I can't ask that question, because they are already dissing her family for suing a hero.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/04/29/that-officer-was-a-hero-family-of-ashli-babbitt-to-sue-unidentified-capitol-police-officer-who-shot-her/

As well they should, she was no more wrong or just as wrong as others that have been shot by the Police and have filed claims or lawsuits. Maybe at least they will get an identity released of the shooter, why should he remain anonymous? One of the first things that normally happen in a police shooting is the ID is plastered all over the news.

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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2021, 06:50:40 PM »

As well they should, she was no more wrong or just as wrong as others that have been shot by the Police and have filed claims or lawsuits. Maybe at least they will get an identity released of the shooter, why should he remain anonymous? One of the first things that normally happen in a police shooting is the ID is plastered all over the news.
I'm somewhat surprised that nobody - authorized or not - has posted the shooter's identity yet.

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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2021, 07:22:53 PM »

I'm wondering if the Capitol Police have special immunity regarding this compared to local LE. There was already some protection for the officer's identity that is not the case for local LE.

Most liability claims against the Federal Government and its employees are handled via the Federal Tort Claims Act, which is a much more conservative legal environment than the civil court system.  So the Government reviews the claim, decides whether to pay it or not, and if they don't, then you can sue them in Federal court, in which all cases are heard and decided by a judge, not a jury.  Most plaintiff liability lawyers think it is more difficult to prevail against the Feds, the awards are lower, and there are caps on the plaintiff lawyer fees.
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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2021, 11:01:16 PM »

I'll bet the guy is dead already.
 
I'll also bet that he was a staffer, and not a cop or "security."
 
Look at the footage. The guy was wearing cufflinks.
 
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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2021, 08:43:10 AM »

I'll bet the guy is dead already.
 
I'll also bet that he was a staffer, and not a cop or "security."
 
Look at the footage. The guy was wearing cufflinks.
 
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Fair point.  That or something similar may be part of why his identity is being protected.  He also might just be on a first name basis with some powerful Congresspeople.

Outside of that, I am glad they are able to sue.  Hopefully they can at least get information released on the shooting from the Govt side.  Likely there is video from the other side of that door. 
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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2021, 09:03:02 AM »

That or something similar may be part of why his identity is being protected. 

My understanding was that the identity protection is part of being federal law enforcement. For instance, There are websites that let you see the FOIA'd salary information of all Federal employees every year. Except for LE and alphabet agencies. The information is only employee name, duty station, and salary, but it is still redacted for fed LE.
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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2021, 09:16:56 AM »

Early on, I read reports that he was part of a congresscritters security detail. Afterword, I never heard anything about that and everything I read mentioned capital police.

Are the capital police assigned to individual congresscritters?
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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2021, 09:24:35 AM »


Are the capital police assigned to individual congresscritters?

Apparently they can be.  I read a story a few weeks back that (I think) Omar took a contingent of Capitol Police with her as bodyguards when she went to some city to promote defunding the police.

Yes, the irony.
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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2021, 11:01:33 AM »

Take it for what it's worth: Gateway Pundit is claiming the killer is a lieutenant with the Capitol Police:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/breaking-exclusive-police-lieutenant-shot-killed-ashli-babbitt-lead-murder-suspect-ashli-babbitt-case/

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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2021, 11:10:17 AM »

Apparently they can be.  I read a story a few weeks back that (I think) Omar took a contingent of Capitol Police with her as bodyguards when she went to some city to promote defunding the police.

Yes, the irony.
I heard it pointed out yesterday, they may want to defund the police, but they really want to replace the police with something else.  It won't be anarchy as some see it.
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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2021, 02:53:01 PM »

Do you all think the killing was criminal?

I have read almost nothing about the issue, nor have seen any videos of it.

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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2021, 03:10:09 PM »

Maybe not criminal but it has been completely swept away. There are a couple videos of the shooting. A wide view and a closeup of the shooter. You can decide what you think after watching.

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/capitol-shooting-that-led-to-ashli-babbitt-s-death-captured-on-video-99180613572

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ9oThRuMVs


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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2021, 03:35:53 PM »

The ultimate goal of the Democrats Marxists is to federalize the police.
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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2021, 03:49:46 PM »

Do you all think the killing was criminal?

I have read almost nothing about the issue, nor have seen any videos of it.
Do you think the officer or anyone on the other side of that door was actually in any sort of danger that warranted shooting her?  Even if she made it through that hole in the door I am not sure it was warranted.
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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2021, 08:01:36 PM »

The ultimate goal of the Democrats Marxists is to federalize the police.

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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2021, 10:38:48 PM »

Do you all think the killing was criminal?

I have read almost nothing about the issue, nor have seen any videos of it.

Yes. Criminal not in the sense that he intended to break a law, but criminal in the sense that it was a needless, senseless killing and therefore should be charged as something like criminal negligence, negligent homicide, or whatever such charges exist in federal law.

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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2021, 07:40:52 PM »

I figured that AB figured that after breaching that barrier than she would get cuffed, stuffed, bonded out, and go home to tell stories.
 
I think the guy with the cufflinks was some sort of staffer who went hunting.
 
Seriously - pretty much ANY law enforcement officer, and a lot of folks like you and I, has training in use of force. Shoot/Don't Shoot. Is there a reason?
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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2021, 08:12:42 PM »

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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2021, 05:11:35 AM »

Do you all think the killing was criminal?

I have read almost nothing about the issue, nor have seen any videos of it.

I've seen no recent evidence that the criminality or not of a police shooting has any bearing on the filing or settling of a civil suit.

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« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2021, 06:58:59 AM »

I've seen no recent evidence that the criminality or not of a police shooting has any bearing on the filing or settling of a civil suit.
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Re: Ashli Babbitt's Family to Sue Capitol Police
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2021, 09:18:19 AM »

I heard it pointed out yesterday, they may want to defund the police, but they really want to replace the police with something else.  It won't be anarchy as some see it.

Of course. They claim they they want to "defund" the police, but really what they want is to BE the enforcers of the law.
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