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Gain of function
« on: May 10, 2021, 08:29:26 PM »
Working my way through this investigative journalism piece on the origins of covid-19, where it came from, who funded its research and how it got funded.

The author is not a no nothing hack, from Wikipedia:
Nicholas Wade (born 17 May 1942) is a British author and journalist. He served as the staff writer for the Science Times section of The New York Times from 1982 to 2012. He is the author of the controversial book A Troublesome Inheritance: Genes, Race and Human History (2014).

This is pretty political so here it goes

https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038

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Re: Gain of function
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2021, 04:10:03 AM »
Interesting article. Thank you.

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Re: Gain of function
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2021, 04:41:32 PM »
Very interesting information. Now I understand the thread title.

In my mind, it's very likely the virus escaped the lab, for what that's worth. Even the US State Department admits the CCP has been hindering investigations: "For more than a year, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has systematically prevented a transparent and thorough investigation of the COVID-19 pandemic’s origin, choosing instead to devote enormous resources to deceit and disinformation."  https://2017-2021.state.gov/fact-sheet-activity-at-the-wuhan-institute-of-virology/index.html
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Re: Gain of function
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2021, 05:01:02 PM »
Fireworks begin.

I don't suspect we'll get to know the truth.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-sen-paul-rips-fauci-over-gain-function-funding
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Re: Gain of function
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2021, 06:54:14 PM »
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Re: Gain of function
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2021, 10:30:19 PM »
I don't think it escaped the lab.
 
I think it was seeded into the population, with a pre-prepped propaganda blitz about an epidemic, to cover for the execution, and cremation, of thousands of Hong Kong protesters.
 
And American media ate it up, and prompted the politicians to act, or else.
 
It kills the heck out of people who are terminally ill with "co-morbidities."
 
It empties hospices and skilled-nursing-facilities whose patients have to be turned to keep them from developing pressure ulcers.
 
Most other folks get the snifflies. Or, if their doctor panics, and decides that they need to be on a ventilator, because they've heard so much about how that is the treatment (it isn't...), and get their lungs shredded like tissue paper by increasingly high pressures, then they show the "lasting damage" that they crowed about.
 
Yeah, it whups your ass. Past few Santa seasons, I pretty much needed a month vacation time to get over all the crud that I'd catch from the kids during the last week. Whiskey and movies...
 
I suspect that geriatric morbidity numbers will hit a trough for the next year. They already got the easy ones...
 
I do think it was cooked up - likely as a bioweapon to be largely non-fatal to a population, to soften resistance.
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Re: Gain of function
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2021, 12:01:09 AM »
I don't think it escaped the lab.
 
I think it was seeded into the population, with a pre-prepped propaganda blitz about an epidemic, to cover for the execution, and cremation, of thousands of Hong Kong protesters.
 
And American media ate it up, and prompted the politicians to act, or else.
 
It kills the heck out of people who are terminally ill with "co-morbidities."
 
It empties hospices and skilled-nursing-facilities whose patients have to be turned to keep them from developing pressure ulcers.
 
Most other folks get the snifflies. Or, if their doctor panics, and decides that they need to be on a ventilator, because they've heard so much about how that is the treatment (it isn't...), and get their lungs shredded like tissue paper by increasingly high pressures, then they show the "lasting damage" that they crowed about.
 
Yeah, it whups your ass. Past few Santa seasons, I pretty much needed a month vacation time to get over all the crud that I'd catch from the kids during the last week. Whiskey and movies...
 
I suspect that geriatric morbidity numbers will hit a trough for the next year. They already got the easy ones...
 
I do think it was cooked up - likely as a bioweapon to be largely non-fatal to a population, to soften resistance.
That makes way too much sense.
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Re: Gain of function
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2021, 12:05:51 AM »
If China were using it to conceal mass deaths, why would they pretend that their death rates were so low?

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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2021, 08:12:04 AM »
Because, overall, there weren't really all that many Hong Kong protesters to get rid of... Under 100,000. And when they saw how other places were self-harming by going with the quarantine strategy, they sure were not going to interrupt them.
 
"See! The quarantines work! You should weld your apartment building doors shut! See us do it! See our roving medics scraping people off the sidewalks... But we had low numbers, because quarantines. You should shut all the things down. Until you get $80/sheet plywood! Then you have low numbers like us! Now, pay attention to the cases!!!!!
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Re: Gain of function
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2021, 09:02:02 AM »
At the very minimum we can say:

The USA was, in part, funding the research at the Wuhan lab through a third party.

Dr. Fauci was in charge of signing off on the funding that eventually ended up at the Wuhan lab.

The Wuhan lab was modifying bat viruses in such a manner that could increase their ability to infect human beings.

The Covid-19 pandemic started in Wuhan China.

Am I overstating anything above?
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Re: Gain of function
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2021, 10:47:35 PM »
I don't think it escaped the lab.
 
I think it was seeded into the population, with a pre-prepped propaganda blitz about an epidemic, to cover for the execution, and cremation, of thousands of Hong Kong protesters.
 
And American media ate it up, and prompted the politicians to act, or else.
 
It kills the heck out of people who are terminally ill with "co-morbidities."
 
It empties hospices and skilled-nursing-facilities whose patients have to be turned to keep them from developing pressure ulcers.
 
Most other folks get the snifflies. Or, if their doctor panics, and decides that they need to be on a ventilator, because they've heard so much about how that is the treatment (it isn't...), and get their lungs shredded like tissue paper by increasingly high pressures, then they show the "lasting damage" that they crowed about.
 
Yeah, it whups your ass. Past few Santa seasons, I pretty much needed a month vacation time to get over all the crud that I'd catch from the kids during the last week. Whiskey and movies...
 
I suspect that geriatric morbidity numbers will hit a trough for the next year. They already got the easy ones...
 
I do think it was cooked up - likely as a bioweapon to be largely non-fatal to a population, to soften resistance.

Bingo.

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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2021, 10:49:59 PM »
China has a population "problem".  What better way to get rid of some of the low-end non-technological people and cause worldwide disruption that may benefit the CCPs grandiose schemes?  [popcorn]
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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2021, 05:30:07 PM »
China has a population "problem".  What better way to get rid of some of the low-end non-technological people and cause worldwide disruption that may benefit the CCPs grandiose schemes?  [popcorn]

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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2021, 09:10:11 PM »
Perhaps this gentleman knows something ...  [tinfoil]

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Re: Gain of function
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2021, 11:27:49 PM »
Newsweek is a right wing group of Trump supporters.
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Re: Gain of function
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2022, 09:26:48 AM »
DARPA considered Fauci's research gain of function research.

Why take medical advice from a known provable liar like Fauci?

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/military-documents-about-gain-of-function-contradict-fauci-testimony-under/
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Re: Gain of function
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2022, 09:32:36 AM »
DARPA considered Fauci's research gain of function research.

Why take medical advice from a known provable liar like Fauci?

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/military-documents-about-gain-of-function-contradict-fauci-testimony-under/

Because Fauci is a darling of the democrats and guess who controls the flow out of the spigot of endless money?
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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2022, 05:14:40 PM »
Because Fauci is a daring of the democrats and guess who controls the flow out of the spicket of endless money?

*spigot* 

And Fauci controls it, I guess. He seems to control everything else around here.
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« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2022, 07:27:00 AM »
*spigot* 


I even double checked the spelling and I still messed it up
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« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2022, 07:36:53 AM »
I even double checked the spelling and I still messed it up

Does that include "daring" instead of "darling?"   :police:
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« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2022, 07:38:06 AM »
Does that include "daring" instead of "darling?"   :police:
How darl you!
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Re: Gain of function
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2022, 07:40:58 AM »
It never rains it....



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« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2022, 07:42:24 AM »
Cat must of walked on my keyboard.
Yeah that's it.


Actually that does happen a lot in my house.
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