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Calumus

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Starlink
« on: May 11, 2021, 10:04:47 PM »

So, today I set up my first Starlink system for a client. He just built a monster of a house for himself, his wife, and their 5 boys under 13. He never bothered to check if there was cable on the road before he broke ground, and fiber is non existent in his rural corner of NJ so the only option he thought he had was 3mb dsl from Verizon.

Luckily he called me in to tell him what he needed to prewire before he closed up the walls, and I had just spoken to someone who lived about 10 miles from him that had just gotten Starlink and was happy with it. So we signed him up for the beta, and 3 weeks later his dish arrived. Aside from the time it took him to set the pole he was going to mount it on, and to drill a hole through the foundation to the basement utility room, it took 5 mins to set everything up and get him online.

First speed test was 185 down 12.6 up but the Ping was 286. Subsequent tests slowed down to the 80-100mbs range with pings in the low 40ís. I have to say I was impressed. This really could be a game changer if the results stay consistent. You guys who are lucky enough to be out in the boonies, but have suffered with crappy Internet, Starlink could really be a worthwhile investment. The dish was $500 and service is $99/month so not cheap; but if you need some decent speed, worth it. Iíll update this thread over the next couple of months once he has his family in and using it regularly.

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Re: Starlink
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2021, 10:08:41 PM »

1 month update. So far theyíve been happy with the service. No complaints from the kids or wife so heís happy. Heís sent me a bunch of speed tests, and they range from about 45-200mbs down and between 13-25mbs up. Ping is ranging from 25-45. Keeping in mind that this is still a beta, and will continue improving I'm pretty happy with it. One thing with the speed tests he sent me was that they were sent at varying times of day, and he had no idea if any or all of the kids were using it at the time.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2021, 10:36:14 PM by Calumus »

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Re: Starlink
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2021, 01:35:43 AM »

Once itís ready for prime time Iíll be signing up.

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Re: Starlink
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2021, 08:13:16 AM »

1 month update. So far theyíve been happy with the service. No complaints from the kids or wife so heís happy. Heís sent me a bunch of speed tests, and they range from about 45-200mbs down and between 13-25mbs up. Ping is ranging from 25-45. Keeping in mind that this is still a beta, and will continue improving I'm pretty happy with it. One thing with the speed tests he sent me was that they were sent at varying times of day, and he had no idea if any or all of the kids were using it at the time.

Did he mention anything about downtime? Most everything else about it at this time sounds superior to what I have now at not much more cost, but I'm wondering what downtime percentages are / will be.
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Re: Starlink
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2021, 01:06:23 AM »

Did he mention anything about downtime? Most everything else about it at this time sounds superior to what I have now at not much more cost, but I'm wondering what downtime percentages are / will be.

He didnít mention any at all; but Starlink themselves say there can be occasional outages as updates are pushed. From user reports Iíve read online they seem to be fairly rare, and only last a couple mins when they do happen. One feature for your neck of the woods is that the dish actually has a heating element that it activates when it senses snow. I doubt itís powerful enough to deal with a really heavy snowfall; but it should work for moderate amounts. The mounting pole the dish comes with is only about 6Ē tall, so essentially useless. For my client, we just drove a 6í pipe into the ground between 3 landscape boulders to give the dish some lift and some protection from wandering gocarts...

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Re: Starlink
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2021, 08:24:36 AM »

He didnít mention any at all; but Starlink themselves say there can be occasional outages as updates are pushed. From user reports Iíve read online they seem to be fairly rare, and only last a couple mins when they do happen. One feature for your neck of the woods is that the dish actually has a heating element that it activates when it senses snow. I doubt itís powerful enough to deal with a really heavy snowfall; but it should work for moderate amounts. The mounting pole the dish comes with is only about 6Ē tall, so essentially useless. For my client, we just drove a 6í pipe into the ground between 3 landscape boulders to give the dish some lift and some protection from wandering gocarts...

Thanks, that's good info. I didn't know about the snow thing - that's convenient. My current fixed wireless dish is near the top of the roof, but there's no way I'm getting on my steep roof to put a dish up myself, so would likely put the starlink dish on the ground as your client did.
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Re: Starlink
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2021, 09:26:33 AM »

Is power to the dish provided by Power over Ethernet or something similar?  Or is there a separate power line to the receiver?
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Re: Starlink
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2021, 11:21:23 AM »

Is power to the dish provided by Power over Ethernet or something similar?  Or is there a separate power line to the receiver?

Looks like it is PoE:

https://www.theverge.com/22435030/starlink-satellite-internet-spacex-review
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Re: Starlink
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2021, 11:23:02 AM »

It's power over Ethernet. I believe it's a 100' cable. Ben, if you can find some brave soul to climb up there for you, I've seen a good number of people using their old dishes as mounting platforms.

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Re: Starlink
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2021, 12:49:28 PM »

It's power over Ethernet. I believe it's a 100' cable. Ben, if you can find some brave soul to climb up there for you, I've seen a good number of people using their old dishes as mounting platforms.

Good thought. Though I know at my last place, when I moved, the fixed wireless guys came out and removed both the dish and mount from the roof. Don't know what the current company does.
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Re: Starlink
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2021, 07:15:26 AM »

I just saw this a few mins ago. Apparently the dish had a thermal limit of 122 degrees. Could be an issue for southerners, and some rooftop mounting.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/06/starlink-dish-overheats-in-arizona-sun-knocking-user-offline-for-7-hours/

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Re: Starlink
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2021, 09:27:21 AM »

Well, this is one way to use Starlink...

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/02/chp-tickets-driver-with-apparent-spacex-starlink-dish-on-hood.html

I will note that according to the article, Starlink will be coming out with a vehicle antenna, which would be pretty cool, depending on pricing. Besides general mobile high speed wireless, it could be a Sirius/XM killer.
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Re: Starlink
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2021, 11:38:58 AM »

I just saw this a few mins ago. Apparently the dish had a thermal limit of 122 degrees. Could be an issue for southerners, and some rooftop mounting.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/06/starlink-dish-overheats-in-arizona-sun-knocking-user-offline-for-7-hours/
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Re: Starlink
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2021, 11:40:59 AM »

5 month update. First client with Starlink is still thrilled. He thinks heís averaging about 70mbs; but itís hard to be sure with 7 people in the house all with multiple devices hooked up. He reported An occasional drop during extremely heavy rain; but itís usually just for a couple seconds. He said itís usually back up before he runs out of buffer on a Netflix movie.

I set up a second client in the same area with it about a month ago. He replaced Hughsnet with it. He was averaging 1 mbs with Hughs, and also seems to be around the 70mbs range with Starlink. Ping seems to be variable between 25-45; but his son who plays Fortnite and GTA online says that everythingís been fine for him.

As far as the overheating issue above 122*, Iím wondering if people who need to could set up some sort of mister or liquid cooling set up to keep the dish cool.